[Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Thu May 10 21:58:48 BST 2012
The reason I did this is that the overhead seems to become to big. The
support files (xwd, models, thumbs) together is almost 2.2Mb
Certainly for SCORM if you have an VLE where you have to pay for the
disk storage that adds up. What we could do is change the setup:
Have 3 options:
Export zip
Export SCORM 1.2 package
Export SCORM 2004 3rd Ed. package
and then have 2 checkboxes:
1. Full
2. Change URL of local media to local
With the defaults being 1 toggled on, 2 toggled off (i.e. as close as
possible to the current exports)
Op 10-5-2012 22:43, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever
> zip export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte.
>
> However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media
> in terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of
> not including the files required to edit unless including them causes
> a problem?
>
> Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe
> keeping that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have
> to export twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously
> the scorm export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this
> context e.g. is there a problem including the .xwd and any other files
> required to edit as part of all the exports?
>
> Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to
> local links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how
> to re-use assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if
> there's media and files used with lots of different LO's then upload
> to an asset only LO and then use those links in any number of LO's.
> This also means that linked documents can be updated once in one place
> so I think having choice of whether to keep the full url links or
> localise them is useful even if the asset is in the same lo.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 10 May 2012 21:19
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
> The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them.
> The zip archives just contain the bare minimum.
>
> I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen....
> and then get rid of option 3.
>
> Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> Have committed that small mod.
>
> As far as I can tell option 3 works like this...
>
> I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link
>
> I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere
>
> export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder
> but the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links
>
> export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota
> to FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url.
>
> I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a
> different lo and in that case the export retains the full url so I
> guess the code must check for the LO ID or something and only convert
> the links to local links if the same lo.
>
> However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the
> moment there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported
> with option 2 and 3. If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but
> then automatically minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the
> file. The same lo exported with option 1 edits just fine.
>
> In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via
> properties > media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even
> though it is uploaded.
>
> I'll add these issues to the Google doc.
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:27
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
> Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-)
>
> Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> Hi Tom
>
> on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy
> that has <br></br> in the relevant places e.g.
>
> Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification?
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron
> Mitchell
> *Sent:* 10 May 2012 20:09
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
> That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each
> link just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake.
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 10 May 2012 19:59
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
> How about this for now?
>
>
>
> Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef:
>
> I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what
> it is doing.
>
> Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> Do we need to add some wording to make this easy to understand: I
> might not know what 'with references to local files altered' means, so
> it might read:
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
> There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is
> packaged, but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with
> another user, to deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM
> compliant LMS or VLE. You can choose whether to export all of the
> project's files, or just those files used by the project. [Need some
> explanation around option 3 here].
>
> Export Zip Archive with all media files from the project
>
> Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project
>
> Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda
>
> If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM
> 1.2 or SCORM 2004 packages. If you don't know which version of SCORM
> you need, the SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems.
>
> Export Scorm 1.2 Package
>
> Scorm 2004 Package.
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can't remember what the
> point of option 3 was..? I'll see if I can find anything in my mail...
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 10 May 2012 09:42
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> Yep.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
> Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys
> last week... :-)
>
> I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the
> functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree?
>
> Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip?
>
>
>
> Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports.
>
>
>
> I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
>
> Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there
>
> are 5 exports:
>
>
>
> Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or
>
> mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to
>
> look at that.
>
>
>
> Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls
>
>
>
> SCORM 1.2
>
>
>
> SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data
>
>
>
> SCORM 2004
>
>
>
>
>
> As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use
>
> SCORM with extra MetaData)
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option.
>
>
>
> Otherwise we start ending up with a slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out.
>
>
>
> Are these changes on the test server now?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
>
> Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export,
>
> The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the
>
> export/download discussion.
>
>
>
> Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> Hi
>
> Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs&
>
> Friday...
>
>
>
> Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all
>
> the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being
>
> sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text
>
> hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than
>
> a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page
>
> or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might
>
> not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not
>
> work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that
>
> export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they
>
> can delete unwanted media via media& quota before exporting. e.g. owner
>
> should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be
>
> as a backup of the whole project.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
>
> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> I just committed an update to the export code:
>
>
>
> Fixes and additions for export
>
> - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language
>
> folder
>
> - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export
>
> - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if those
>
> models are used
>
> - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied
>
> - small fixes in htaccess.conf
>
> - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php
>
> - get rid of superfuous scorm files
>
> - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm in
>
> in their own folder (modules/xerte/export)
>
>
>
>
>
> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well...
>
>
>
> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted
>
> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a
>
> password in the database... ;-)
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef:
>
> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might
>
> conflict.
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders<reijnders at tor.nl> <mailto:reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:
>
> I will, but they are really simple.
>
>
>
> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef:
>
> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones
>
> might have hungry regexs?
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin<david at palepurple.co.uk> <mailto:david at palepurple.co.uk>
>
> wrote:
>
> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote:
>
>
>
> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers
>
> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :)
>
>
>
> David.
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