[Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test

Wed May 9 12:23:32 BST 2012

According to my Xerte desktop installation it generates a linkID and not a
pageID

phew you had me worried there for a minute :-)

I know you have referred to "deep linking" before but I was never sure what
you meant.

The idea here was to create a link using a value known to the learning
object author.

It was just an experiment. Maybe if it works without the delay in XOT then
it would be more acceptable.

I can shorten the delay in Xerte but in the absence of a means of knowing
when the page array has been fully populated it will always be guess work
as to how short the delay can be.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 9 May 2012 12:05, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> No, the wizard automatically produces a pageID in the xml – you’ll have
> seen it I’m sure. The intention for this was to facilitate deep linking,
> i.e. ?pageID=321234524
>
>
>
> But when Pat and I tried to get it to work nicely we couldn’t and parked
> it. It may well be we hit the same issue you have hit: the need for the
> delay, which I don’t think is acceptable to the end user.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 09 May 2012 11:54
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test
>
>
>
> The javascript routine used matches a name to data, so you could just as
> easily use ?name=titlePage as you could ?pageID=titlePage
>
>
>
> The problem with using name is that the page name is more likely to be
> "Title Page" and the use of spaces might cause a problem.
>
>
>
> It was never intended that this should be an alternative routing
> internally within a learning object to another page in that learning
> object. It was only intended to be a means of opening a different learning
> object, which you can do already using a URL. The only difference here was
> that someone on one of the postings was lamenting the inability to open a
> new learning object at a specific page.
>
>
>
> The version for XOT would have to use the extXML which, from memory, did
> not suffer the need for a delay before it could be used. But I am quite
> happy to leave it out of this release as once people were happy it would
> work OK then it could be added later.
>
>
>
> I need a little time to finish the XOT demo version anyway and right now I
> am focusing on an update to the scenario page to make it easier to
> implement scenarios like the Farmer, the Goose, the Fox and the Bag of
> Grain on one side of the river.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 9 May 2012 10:31, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> The need for that delay may well be why we decided to leave it last time.
> It’s disorienting to see the page for that long and then suddenly be moved
> on. Let’s leave this for another time.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 05 May 2012 10:17
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test
>
>
>
> The delay is because I have had to put a timer in to give Xerte the time
> to build the rootIcon.pages array - it's a bit of guess work as to how long
> I need to give it. It would be nice if the onInit event didn't fire until
> the array had completed being built, then I could remove the timer and the
> delay would be reduced to the minimum required.
>
>
>
> In XOT you use a different array so I think the time delay will be
> insignificant as if I recall correctly the array was already fully
> available.
>
>
>
> I'll run some further tests in XOT now that I have the javascript sorted
> out and then post something for you to try out.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 5 May 2012 09:44, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Working fine here too
> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/urlTest/index.htm?pageID=menu
>
> Win 7 64bit
>
> IE 8.0
>
> Chrome 18.0
>
> Safari 5.1.5
>
> Opera 10.60
>
> Firefox 12.0
>
>
>
> Great job Jonathan this will be a very popular feature.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 05 May 2012 08:23
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Proof of concept test
>
>
>
> Working fine here (although with a noticeable lag, first page is shown and
> after 1 second the menu page is opened)
>
> Windows 7, 64 bit IE9, FF12, Chrome 18
>
> Op 4-5-2012 23:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I have been working (between beta version stuff) on a means of making it
> possible to open a Xerte project at a specific page, rather than always
> have them open at the title page.
>
>
>
> Attached is a simple 3 page desktop Xerte project as a proof of concept.
>
>
>
> Do not open it in Xerte (at least until you have finished testing it!) If
> you publish the project, in Xerte, your local copy of rloObject.js will
> overwrite the one in the project and the code that supports the redirection
> will be lost.
>
>
>
> Would you mind unzipping it and then opening index.htm in a web browser -
> not Xerte.
>
>
>
> For it to work you will need to set up the folder in which you place it as
> a trusted location in the Flash player settings (otherwise javascript calls
> will not work).
>
>
>
> It should open at a title page.
>
>
>
> Then add to the url in your browser
>
>
>
> ?pageID=menu
>
>
>
> and press enter to reload the page.
>
>
>
> After a short delay the project should redirect from the title page to the
> menu page.
>
>
>
> I have tested this in Firefox, IE8, and Opera.
>
>
>
> If anyone has other browsers at their disposal I would be keen to know if
> the redirection works. e.g. Chrome, Safari,
>
>
>
> Should you examine the project the key stuff that makes it work is a
> function at the end of rlsObject.js and some code running off the
> onInitHandler interaction in the entry frame. Because rootIcon.pages.length
> has not finished being built when the onInit event fires I have added a
> timer to create a delay to allow time for the array to be built - hence the
> delay before redirection takes place.
>
>
>
> Should this prove reliable in your testing I believe the same approach
> should be applicable to XOT (albeit using a different array to source the
> page information)
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
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