[Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages

Julian Tenney Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Wed May 9 10:12:02 BST 2012


I commited the latest version - and just checked, it's in there,

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 06 May 2012 20:53
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages

If for you it is only the navigation disabling that is not working then the problem is the copy of XMLEngine.swf is not the most recent as Julian added a new method to the buttons so that I could disable them.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 6 May 2012 20:32, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi Jonathan
I've just been checking this and the test server definitely has all the latest code from the xot svn. As far as I can tell changing colour on menu over is working but as you say disabling navigation doesn't appear to be.

To test further I updated my local xampp copy replacing all the code apart from user-files and database.php and exactly the same combination of what works and what doesn't appears with that too.

HTH
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 06 May 2012 10:49

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages

Sorry I could not reply yesterday, I was unable to access my email account due to problems at their end.

I have checked the website and the Menu for the Connector pages is still showing the correct fields in the xwd form but the expected results in terms of disabled navigation and changing colour of menu options on mouse over are not showing.

I have updated my copy of the XOT svn and confirmed that the connectorMenu.rlm file is the latest version (XOT svn/modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/).

I probably won't get any more time today to look at this.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 5 May 2012 11:59, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> wrote:
Ok try again - don't have time to check right now - going offline - but I just replaced all files rather than just updated - hopefully that resolves this but if not I'll have to check again later.
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 05 May 2012 10:38

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages

I have just replaced the Connector menu page at the start of the Connectors section.

The correct data.xwd is in place as I am now seeing the correct navigation properties being offered and the optional colour properties that allow you to change the colour of the menu. However navigation buttons are not showing as disabled, which suggests that the latest version of XMLEngine.swf may not be installed.

Also I added the optional colour properties and changed the colours that should display when hovering over a menu item and these effects are not happening in the page. So I am wondering if the correct model file is in place?

If you take a look at the Connector menu page at the start of the Connector pages section you should see what I mean.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 5 May 2012 09:28, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi Jonathan/all
sorry been busy in Glasgow last couple of days but back now and test install now updated with latest code/updates etc
Jonathan - I just did a quick check of the shared lo and couldn't spot anything broken with the connector pages?
Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 04 May 2012 22:12
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Update on Connector pages

I have now committed the changes of the model files to the XOT svn and also the newly generated data.xwd.

These files should be able to be transferred to the demo site for testing.

Ron - If you wouldn't mind confirming when you have done this I will go in and recreate the Connector pages as the changes to the navigation options and removal of the Display Text child elements will compromise the performance of the pages until I can recreate them.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 3 May 2012 22:19, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl<mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>> wrote:
Johnathan, that would be fine yes.

Op 3-5-2012 22:39, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
Thanks for the update.

With respect to the XOT repository
it should now be possible to replace the following model files in the XOT repository
with the equivalent files from the Xerte/pageWizard repository

cMcq.rlm
connectorHotspotImage.rlm
connectorMenu.rlm
connectorPlainText.rlm
cRedirector.rlm
cTabNav.rlm
inventory.rlm
quiz.rlm
scenario.rlm
youtube.rlm
youtuberss.rlm

the data.xwd file can be replaced with a renamed copy of the template.xwd file from the Xerte svn pageWizards/en-GB folder.

Tom are you happy for me to do this? Copying across the files to the appropriate XOt repository folder won't cause any problems as far as you are concerned re-svn histories?

Once I have done this Ron could update his XOT beta test site.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 3 May 2012 19:48, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl<mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>> wrote:
Updated pageWizards/en-GB/template.xwd in the xerte2 repository
Updated build script to obey restrict
rebuilt xerte-beta.exe


Op 3-5-2012 16:15, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
OK done that and uploaded the modified you tube models.

Everything I have been working on recently with respect to enhancing the Connector pages and removing instances of "Display Text" is now committed into the PageWizards section of the svn.

I have also sorted out my javascript problems - it was those damned flash player permissions.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 3 May 2012 12:48, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl<mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>> wrote:
perhaps make it a bit more verbose... restrict="develop", restrict="template"

Op 3-5-2012 13:46, Tom Reijnders schreef:
Yes, that would be fine...

basic.xwd (and template.xwd) are kind of special. No need to change that. The exception is hard coded anyway, like template.xwd. (It is the basis of the generated template.xwd)

Tom

Op 3-5-2012 13:41, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
I had originally thought to put the restrict in the newNodes section but it occurs to me you are only interested in the xwd not the xml it generates. Further the basic.xwd file does not have any entries in newNodes. So would it work for what you want to use if for if we put the restrict property in the <wizard tag as every xwd has that tag?

e.g.s

<wizard menus="Text,Media,Navigators,Connectors,Charts,Interactivity,Games,Misc" restrict="t">  // example for basic.xwd

<wizard menus="Misc" restrict="d">  // example for indexChanger.xwd

Any xwds that did not have a restrict entry would be used by both Xerte and XOT

Kind regards

Johnathan


On 3 May 2012 11:48, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl<mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>> wrote:
Yes, the restrict would be perfect.

I'll move the pages (rename them in stead of delete/add, you would loose all history and I don't want that) in the svn (if we decide to do that)

Op 3-5-2012 12:35, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
Whilst the translation page has been dropped, does it still need to be included in the XOT release if only to prevent existing projects that contain it from breaking?

I have been checking over earlier discussions.

My understanding is that the eventual aim is to get all the xerte model and xwd files in the runtime/pages/ section of the svn.

I used winmerge to compare the files in the runtime and pagewizards section and the few updates had all taken place in the pageWizards section, which is why I updated the pageWizards section. I think that it would make sense soon to get the runtime / pages section set up as THE location for the next release of Xerte.

Shall I update the runtime pages section accordingly or would you prefer to do that Tom?

I vaguely recall you asking about having a flag in the xwd files to identify those which only belong to Xerte and not XOT (the indexChanger page, pages.xwd). There is also the issue of what to do with the files that belong in XOT but not Xerte e.g. the XerteModel page).

I can add an additional hidden parameter to the xwd of these pages

restrict="d" // desktop
restrict="t" // toolkits

if that would meet your requirements.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 2 May 2012 22:05, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl<mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>> wrote:
The translation page has been dropped from xot as well, because they don't work anymore (the google API is not working anymore, it has been changed into a paid service)

So, for now, you should use the set of the pageWizards, I think.

Op 2-5-2012 22:36, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
Whilst I am still waiting to test the youTube files locally, this does not need to prevent the generation of a new data.xwd file as there have been no changes to the two youtube pages xwd files.

Which set of xwd files are being used to build the data.xwd file?

The latest models and xwd files in the xerte svn / pageWizards section do not contain the pages xerte.rlm / xerte.xwd or translation.rlm / translation.xwd
The xerte page turned out to be an anomaly as it broke the rule of having the same name for the rlm file and xwd file as was used in the name property for the rlm. The name is xerteModel but the file is xerte. This is why the pageWizard folder has an rlm and xwd called xerteModel.

The translation.xwd and rlm files are missing from the pageWizards section of the xerte svn as the translation page was being dropped due to problems with the Google translation service.

However both these pages may be needed in XOT for backward compatibility.

I want to upload the pages that I have corrected and enhanced to the XOT repository but some of the model files will require a rebuild of the data.xwd file.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 2 May 2012 17:11, Kemp Johnathan <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com<mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
I have now committed to the Page Wizards section of the Xerte svn updates to all the Connector pages, the Quiz and the Inventory page.

I have not rebuilt data.xwd as I have yet to set up the new youTube individual pages and I have not had time to check which version is in the svn of these pages.

The new updated models for the Connector pages have some differences in none - optional properties so will not be directly compatible with existing Connector pages. This should not affect the Inventory or Quiz pages.

As soon as I can update the new your tube pages to make the models conform to the new format I will then rebuild data.xwd so that the updated pages can be tried out in the XOT beta.

Kind regards

Johnathan


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