[Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

Fri May 4 21:34:51 BST 2012

I have taken a look at the
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22

link that Ron supplied in Opera, Firefox and 64bit IE8 and I am getting no
unexpected scroll bars.

I have also tested the youtube feed model file (the version now in the
xerte svn pageWizards/models folder - which is essentially the new page
created by Julian with the changes to make it conform to the new pageWizard
test and accomdate page indexing.) in a desktop Xerte project and again am
finding no unexpected scroll bars appearing.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 4 May 2012 09:00, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> > feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip()
>
> delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar;
>
> doesn't resolve the problem - doesn't do anything.
>
>
>
> You gave the icon an ID? Set it to 1 for now then. I’ll investigate.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
>
> *Sent:* 02 May 2012 15:32
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Ok possibly getting closer...
>
>
>
> with the .rlt open and hitting play...
>
> with scrolling off - problem gone
>
> with scrolling 1 - problem gone
>
> with scrolling auto - problem exists!
>
>
>
> Adding a script icon on it's own or attached to a button after feedText in
> the rlm and adding
>
> feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip()
>
> delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar;
>
> doesn't resolve the problem - doesn't do anything.
>
>
>
> BTW now that the selected video pops up in a new window would it be better
> to set the height of the instruction text box to something like 470?
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 02 May 2012 14:51
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Can you try a couple of things…
>
>
>
> - turn scrolling off (delete the property) on the feedText icon in
> youtuberss.rlm ? //if the icon is screwing this up, this should stop any
> scrolling at all
>
> - put it back on, turn it to 1? //this will add scroll bars whatever the
> size of the feed text is returned, just curious if it makes any odds.
>
>
>
> If those fail we need to debug it from within the engine and see what’s
> going on: I want to know if it’s getting added twice (which I don’t think
> it is). You could try customising the page and adding abutton to the
> youtuberss.rlm file so you could do things like:
>
>
>
> //try and kill it…
>
> feedTextIcon.scrollBar.removeMovieClip()
>
> delete feedTextIcon.scrollBar;
>
>
>
> //then try this on another button and see if it puts it back properly. If
> we can tie it down to the scroller in the text icon that would be a start.
>
> feedTextIcon.enableScroll(true);
>
>
>
> Does it happen on any other scrollable text fields? Maybe create one
> somewhere and see if that also screws up?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 02 May 2012 14:13
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Just updated the engine, cleared cache in both IE and Safari but same
> problem exists.
>
>
>
> Presumably you've seen the posts to the xerteforteachers list confirming
> that others get this too?
>
>
>
> My Flash player = 11.2.202.233
>
>
>
> Reported by Adam on teachers list
>
> Windows 7
>
> Chrome
>
> Flash: 11.2.202.235
>
>
>
> Reported by Shirley on teachers list
>
> Yes I see it in IE 8 and in FF 8.0.1 I get a blank page, cannot see videos
> at all.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 02 May 2012 13:52
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> This has got to be an engine problem: it looks like the Flash Component
> that provides scrolling, but before it’s been properly initialised and
> moved / sized to the right place.
>
>
>
> What version of the flash player have you got?
>
>
>
> Have you got the latest engine on the web site? I just committed a latest
> one to the root of the toolkits svn.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 02 May 2012 11:31
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no
> difference.
>
>
>
> Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8,
> Safari, Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also
> although I was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who
> raised the issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody
> else on this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but
> let's open this out - I'll send the link to the other lists
> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 02 May 2012 11:18
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Ahh. Maybe it’s the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still
> in the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the
> freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of
> the YT pages.
>
>
>
> Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 02 May 2012 10:51
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same
> issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published
> project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the
> beta install...
>
>
>
> If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I
> don't get the rogue scroller.
>
> If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the
> rogue scroller.
>
> However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and
> preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g.
> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55
>
>
>
> So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this
> but does this point to a possible cause solution?
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 02 May 2012 09:32
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Do you get it in standalone xerte?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 02 May 2012 08:55
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well.
>
>
>
> Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll
> create a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get
> other to respond to confirm whether they get this or not.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 14:19
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll
> bar on that in any of the browsers.
>
>
>
> So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being
> the problem.
>
>
>
> I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so
> it's not that.
>
>
>
> I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists.
>
>
>
> Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc
> and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others
> here on this list could test and confirm either way?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:51
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> XP.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:51
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or
> something? Are you on Win 7 or earlier?
>
>
>
> Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later.
>
>
>
> Anyone else seeing or not seeing this?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:40
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> No I’m not:
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:35
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on
> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22
>
>
>
> I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:16
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> I aint seein’ no scrollbar.
>
>
>
> This some third party thing you guys have installed?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:13
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Have uploaded. P60 of
> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22
>
>
>
> We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which
> also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs.
>
>
>
> Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text?
>
>
>
> In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to
> my laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on
> IE9 too.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 13:02
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the
> params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the
> focus when it’s made, so you don’t lose it. That’s in preview_xerte_top
> (which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it…)
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 12:39
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of
> http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22
>
>
>
> If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but
> page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if
> you go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62.
>
>
>
> Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as
> resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or
> perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and
> Safari I can resize the pop-up.
>
>
>
> Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I
> don't think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going
> then I guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions
> and view full screen are available.
>
>
>
> How will the feed page work?
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 12:14
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its
> in the XOT svn now as well.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 11:41
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page
>
>
>
> Hi Julian
>
> did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn
> that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the
> two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install?
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 01 May 2012 11:29
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page
>
>
>
> I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to
> launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it’s gribbly: the
> movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new
> page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new
> window, but I think it’s the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff
> finished.
>
>
>
> If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I’ll do the RSS one as well,
> but I’ll wait for any comments first.
>
>
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