[Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Pat Lockley patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
Fri May 4 15:07:56 BST 2012 

i'm not either / or ing - just a download local option would help

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Yes, but people looking for a scorm export will know they want a scorm export because their VLE says 'import scorm package'.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 04 May 2012 14:26
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
> No, but i didn't think we'd explicitly made it available as an option
>
> I think
>
> To work locally select "export as scorm" seems a bit erm, really?
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>> My feeling was 5.2 will be OK.
>>
>> What does 'download a copy to work locally' mean?
>>
>> (I know what it means, but does a user?)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:48
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>>
>> 5 beats 4
>>
>> Have we called on php 5.2 yet - as we could add the title of the LO into 5
>>
>> For FWS - do we not need a "download a copy to work locally" option?
>>
>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:
>>> I solved this in the Dutch translation by doing something like:
>>>
>>> Export.
>>>
>>> There are 5 ways to export a Xerte LO, and than enumerating the 5 ways, with
>>> a rationale for this way of Export.
>>>
>>> Seems straightforward enough.
>>>
>>> With this one, there will be 6 in total:
>>>
>>> 1. Full export for further development in Xerte and/or Archiving purposes,
>>> will also include all imported media.
>>> 2. Deployment export
>>> 3. Local Deployment export
>>> 4. SCORM 1.2
>>> 5. SCORM 1.2 with extra metadata
>>> 6. SCORM 2004 3rd Ed.
>>>
>>> We could decide to drop 4 in favour of 5. (or v.v.)
>>>
>>> Furthermore, if we agree this is a good idea, I can start implementing
>>> export.php and  we can see how we will fit this in user interface later.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> Op 4-5-2012 14:21, Pat Lockley schreef:
>>>
>>>> Or
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we drop export as the tab name
>>>>
>>>> 1 Tab is called Export (Scorm + Scorm metadata)
>>>>
>>>> 1 Tab is download (for deployment, locally, to work locally)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney
>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, this is time for the FWS test.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 13:19
>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>>>>>
>>>>> It feels like it is heading into being combobox territory?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Tom Reijnders<reijnders at tor.nl>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And? Consensus? Deployment Export a good idea? And I assume the local
>>>>>> export
>>>>>> is also a variant of deployment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 11:49, Pat Lockley schreef:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i think in the code it is just one extra if statement - nothing more
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Julian Tenney
>>>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK. I remember it, just not the rationale.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>>>>>> Lockley
>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:47
>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John requested it, i think it was because they wanted to export
>>>>>>>> projects with media in, to run on CDs or something
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Julian Tenney
>>>>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What was the reason? Can you remember?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>>>>>>> Lockley
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 10:29
>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i don't want to name who it was
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but they are the pharmacist with the pretty emails.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Julian Tenney
>>>>>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There was a good reason for that that I can't recall now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>>>>>>>> Lockley
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 04 May 2012 09:58
>>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Local zip changes the paths in the xml so any hrefs to files are
>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>> full urls (i think)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it was a request from someone at Nottingham
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Reijnders<reijnders at tor.nl>
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is correct,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We/I could add another export. One for further editing, that should
>>>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>>>> contain JMolViewer and thumbs and all that is needed and a
>>>>>>>>>>> deployment
>>>>>>>>>>> export, that only exports what's needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Scorm will always be a deployment export.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the difference is between a 'local' zip export and
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 'normal' zip export?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Op 4-5-2012 9:44, Julian Tenney schreef:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The thumbs won't then show if the project is opened for editing in
>>>>>>>>>>>> standalone Xerte after being exported...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reijnders
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just committed an update to the export code:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixes and additions for export
>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> /language folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export
>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only
>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>> those models are used
>>>>>>>>>>>>   - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied
>>>>>>>>>>>>   - small fixes in htaccess.conf
>>>>>>>>>>>>   - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>   - get rid of superfuous scorm files
>>>>>>>>>>>>   - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> scorm
>>>>>>>>>>>> in in their own folder (modules/xerte/export)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as
>>>>>>>>>>>> well...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Comitted
>>>>>>>>>>>> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to
>>>>>>>>>>>> set a
>>>>>>>>>>>> password in the database... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflict.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders<reijnders at tor.nl>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will, but they are really simple.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might have hungry regexs?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goodwin<david at palepurple.co.uk>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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