[Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

Wed May 2 11:30:39 BST 2012

Both the Nottingham.rlt and lastest youtuberss.rlm are now in place but no
difference.

Also just to clarify I get this on my laptop consistently Win7 IE8, Safari,
Firefox, Chrome but I don't get it on my Win7 desktop. But also although I
was aware of this it was a delegate on the last Xerte Friday who raised the
issue which was then forwarded by Alistair. Unfortunately nobody else on
this list has indicated whether they see the problem or not but let's open
this out - I'll send the link to the other lists
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 02 May 2012 11:18
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

Ahh. Maybe it's the code trying to clean up the old youtube player still in
the rlt. I just got rid of all the old YT code in there, can you try the
freshly commited Nottingham.rlt? I also stripped some stuff out of one of
the YT pages.

Still not sure why it was always failing for you / never failing for me.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 02 May 2012 10:51
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

Haven't updated my xerte install yet but yes I think I have had the same
issue in the past but I think only during preview not with the published
project but let's park that for now. Have been testing further with the beta
install...

If I create a new project with just the youtube feed page and play that I
don't get the rogue scroller. 

If I then add a title page (or any page) and preview I still don't get the
rogue scroller.

However if I then move the title page above the youtube feed page and
preview/play I do get the rogue scroller. e.g.
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=55

So I know it's difficult for you to troubleshoot given you don't see this
but does this point to a possible cause solution?

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 02 May 2012 09:32
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

Do you get it in standalone xerte?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 02 May 2012 08:55
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

Julian - thanks for making the thumb images clickable - works well.

Not sure what the extent of the rogue scrollbar appearing is but I'll create
a single page example and share via the lists and hopefully get other to
respond to confirm whether they get this or not.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 01 May 2012 14:19
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

Ok tested on another Windows 7 machine and I don't see the rogue scroll bar
on that in any of the browsers.

So that seems to rule out the difference between Windows 7 and XP being the
problem.

I have the same AV software including browser plug-ins on both machines so
it's not that.

I've deleted offline files in IE and tried again - same problem exists.

Lost for ideas now but I have seen this previously on college machines etc
and obviously someone reported it to Alistair too. Would be good if others
here on this list could test and confirm either way?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

XP.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 01 May 2012 13:51
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

That's weird - could it be flash player version or OS version or something?
Are you on Win 7 or earlier?

Got a skype call now but will test on a different machine later.

Anyone else seeing or not seeing this?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 01 May 2012 13:40
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

No I'm not:

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 01 May 2012 13:35
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

No this is on the test server purely 1.8 code are you not seeing it on
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22

I get this on IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 01 May 2012 13:16
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

I aint seein' no scrollbar.

This some third party thing you guys have installed?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 01 May 2012 13:13
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

Have uploaded. P60 of
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22

We've still got that rogue scrollbar to the left of the thumbnails which
also affects the scrollbar for the thumbs.

Can the thumbnails be active links as well as the text?

In my IE8 the pop-up still isn't resizable but could just be specific to my
laptop so would be good if others could test and feed back? Will test on IE9
too.

HTH

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 01 May 2012 13:02
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

Just committed the feed page, it works the same way. I also changed the
params in openWindow to allow the window to be resizable, and to get the
focus when it's made, so you don't lose it. That's in preview_xerte_top
(which is in modules/xerte by the way as I can never find it.)

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 01 May 2012 12:39
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

It's in place now - page 61 and 62 of
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=22

If you go through in linear order Page 61 comes up with an undefined but
page 62 seems to work fine - not sure what the difference is but then if you
go back to page 61 it pops up the video from page 62.

Will the wizard have options to set pop-up window features such as
resizable? In IE 8 the pop up isn't resizable but I think it should be or
perhaps better still have control over than in the wizard. In Firefox and
Safari I can resize the pop-up.

Presumably this is grabbing the image automatically which is great? I don't
think it's as nice as the current YouTube page but if that's going then I
guess we have no choice. At least it means features such as captions and
view full screen are available.

How will the feed page work?

HTH

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 01 May 2012 12:14
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

Sorry, I commited it to xerte. Just replace the one youtube.rlm file. Its in
the XOT svn now as well.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 01 May 2012 11:41
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Youtube page

Hi Julian

did you commit to the XOT svn or just Xerte? Not showing up in the XOT svn
that I've been using for the test install. Not sure if I can just grab the
two files from the Xerte svn and just replace the files on the test install?

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 01 May 2012 11:29
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] New Youtube page

I just committed a new version of the youtube page: it uses newWindow to
launch the video. I tried doing the embed approach, but it's gribbly: the
movie hovers above the popup menus along the bottom, and moving to a new
page left the screen black for a few seconds. So this way pops up a new
window, but I think it's the best we can do until we get the HTML5 stuff
finished.

If you could pop it in the demo please Ron, I'll do the RSS one as well, but
I'll wait for any comments first.

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