[Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release

Pat Lockley patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
Thu Mar 1 13:22:22 GMT 2012 

SVN could handle it, i'd export so I knew I had a copy.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Why export? Why can't the svn handle it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 01 March 2012 13:18
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>
> the age isn't relevant, it'll be the content clashing.
>
> I would export trunk, 1.7 and 1.8 first
> then do diffs across trunk and 1.7
> merge the same files
>
> then see what is different, and accept those.
>
> Make that release candidate 1
>
> test that (as that is "logic changes").
>
> When that works
>
> Merge 1.7 into 1.8
>
> this is "structural changes"
>
> test that.
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Does it matter which way you go - presumably it updates to the latest files in each repository.
>>
>> Can I mess this up?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 01 March 2012 10:06
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>>
>> i would guess 1.8 into 1.7 and 1.7 into trunk.
>>
>> 1.8 into 1.7 will be the bigger issue
>>
>> I'd also consider making release candidates before hand
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> So I try and integrate 1.8 into trunk ad ignore 1.7? Or 1.7 into 1.8 and then 1.8 into trunk? Or all three into 1.81?
>>>
>>> Hmm.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>>> Sent: 01 March 2012 09:59
>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>>>
>>> i've not committed anything bar 1.8
>>>
>>> I guess the SVN shows changes?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Julian Tenney
>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>> We have the trunk, and 1.7 and 1.8. I thought trunk is what we were currently zipping up, so what's the best approach.
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy to press the buttons, but I'm not sure I have a lot of insight as to what's actually happening with the code...
>>>>
>>>> I'll re make all the templates stuff from the xerte SVN, so not worried about that, it's just the php stuff.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>>>> Sent: 29 February 2012 22:02
>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>>>>
>>>> lets try and do this by the end of next week.
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com]
>>>> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:42
>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>>>>
>>>> Do a diff across the two (I think tortoise has a branch or commit or
>>>> merge or something).
>>>>
>>>> The logic is merge 1.7 into 1.8, expect 1.8 to then break (i would guess)
>>>>
>>>> Freeze 1.7 and then fix 1.8.
>>>>
>>>> Then 1.8 goes into trunk, and 1.9 is made for "developing"
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Julian Tenney
>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess.
>>>>> I'm not sure either. How do we resolve this? I don't see much need to change
>>>>> anything o the web-app / php side from now on in, other than your sessions
>>>>> idea, I'm not aware of anything being worked on. So we can start getting to
>>>>> a good source now?
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
>>>>> [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:31
>>>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you keep selling caves on the San Andreas fault if you knew an
>>>>> earthquake was imminent?
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:28:47 +0000
>>>>>> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
>>>>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think more I was saying, nothing is obsolete, you could live in a
>>>>>> cave if you wanted to, but some people like doors, but doors need a
>>>>>> little work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Julian Tenney
>>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> > As long as we're close, we can manage it. Thanks.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ________________________________
>>>>>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
>>>>>> > [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com]
>>>>>> > Sent: 29 February 2012 15:13
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>>>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It may be a bit tight to get all the Connector pages done by then but I
>>>>>> > will
>>>>>> > give it a go. If they arrive a few days later can I still sneak them in?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Before I do any more on the routed pages I will finish off the work on
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > existing templates now that the work on the xwd is finished.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The biggest issue I can see is the one of passing the name value from
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > xml data to be displayed as the page title and to populate the toc. Will
>>>>>> > this all be done in the supporting swf files or will it be necessary to
>>>>>> > alter the model files?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Kind regards
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Johnathan
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 29 February 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney
>>>>>> > <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I
>>>>>> >> reckon
>>>>>> >> that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and pieces, and
>>>>>> >> then,
>>>>>> >> from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing what's there and
>>>>>> >> putting
>>>>>> >> that straight. The testing needs to complete by around 23rd (or more or
>>>>>> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Is that OK with everyone?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing the
>>>>>> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think hard
>>>>>> >> about
>>>>>> >> how to best manage any new functionality to the existing system whilst
>>>>>> >> we
>>>>>> >> develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand that says after
>>>>>> >> this
>>>>>> >> build, play_560 will have an example of every page template in it (this
>>>>>> >> will
>>>>>> >> be my contribution to the testing), and the html5 runtime will
>>>>>> >> (eventually)
>>>>>> >> handle every page type in the build. What's going to be hard is having
>>>>>> >> people adding new templates whilst we try and replicate the
>>>>>> >> functionality in
>>>>>> >> the new stuff.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to the
>>>>>> >> implications of where we are going, because at some point, the HTML5
>>>>>> >> runtime
>>>>>> >> will become the primary delivery system, and we have to look to a
>>>>>> >> future
>>>>>> >> where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at all. Finger in the
>>>>>> >> air,
>>>>>> >> I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but maybe less.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to
>>>>>> >> spend
>>>>>> >> any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but will deal
>>>>>> >> with
>>>>>> >> it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I won't be looking
>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>> >> increase the number of templates in the main distribution.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some
>>>>>> >> sensible
>>>>>> >> framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it easy for
>>>>>> >> developers
>>>>>> >> to add new templates in the future. I still anticipate the xwd driving
>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>> >> wizard form, and therefore some xml payload being delivered to your
>>>>>> >> code -
>>>>>> >> somehow - for you to use to drive your templates, but we haven't even
>>>>>> >> started to really think about that just yet.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks for all the work since September,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> J
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >> From: Tenney Julian
>>>>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04
>>>>>> >> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>>>> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant
>>>>>> >> ________________________________________
>>>>>> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
>>>>>> >> [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com]
>>>>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51
>>>>>> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List
>>>>>> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly
>>>>>> >> serves
>>>>>> >> to focus the mind.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I
>>>>>> >> think
>>>>>> >> still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or
>>>>>> >> completed. I
>>>>>> >> am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over management of the
>>>>>> >> project. I just want to be sure that everything is covered, that there
>>>>>> >> are
>>>>>> >> no misunderstandings or differences in expectation, so that the project
>>>>>> >> delivers on time.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as
>>>>>> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for
>>>>>> >> convenience.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel
>>>>>> >> free
>>>>>> >> to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to date on
>>>>>> >> progress.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document
>>>>>> >> accordingly in the svn.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Kind regards
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Johnathan
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
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