[Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release

Julian Tenney Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Thu Mar 1 09:59:57 GMT 2012 

So I try and integrate 1.8 into trunk ad ignore 1.7? Or 1.7 into 1.8 and then 1.8 into trunk? Or all three into 1.81?

Hmm.

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 01 March 2012 09:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release

i've not committed anything bar 1.8

I guess the SVN shows changes?

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> We have the trunk, and 1.7 and 1.8. I thought trunk is what we were currently zipping up, so what's the best approach.
>
> I'm happy to press the buttons, but I'm not sure I have a lot of insight as to what's actually happening with the code...
>
> I'll re make all the templates stuff from the xerte SVN, so not worried about that, it's just the php stuff.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 29 February 2012 22:02
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>
> lets try and do this by the end of next week.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com]
> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:42
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>
> Do a diff across the two (I think tortoise has a branch or commit or
> merge or something).
>
> The logic is merge 1.7 into 1.8, expect 1.8 to then break (i would guess)
>
> Freeze 1.7 and then fix 1.8.
>
> Then 1.8 goes into trunk, and 1.9 is made for "developing"
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess.
>> I'm not sure either. How do we resolve this? I don't see much need to change
>> anything o the web-app / php side from now on in, other than your sessions
>> idea, I'm not aware of anything being worked on. So we can start getting to
>> a good source now?
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
>> [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com]
>> Sent: 29 February 2012 20:31
>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>>
>>
>> Would you keep selling caves on the San Andreas fault if you knew an
>> earthquake was imminent?
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:28:47 +0000
>>> From: patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
>>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>>>
>>> I think more I was saying, nothing is obsolete, you could live in a
>>> cave if you wanted to, but some people like doors, but doors need a
>>> little work.
>>>
>>> 1.7 / trunk and 1.8 are massively out of sync I'd guess.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Julian Tenney
>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> > As long as we're close, we can manage it. Thanks.
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> > [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
>>> > [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com]
>>> > Sent: 29 February 2012 15:13
>>> >
>>> > To: For Xerte technical developers
>>> > Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Next Release
>>> >
>>> > It may be a bit tight to get all the Connector pages done by then but I
>>> > will
>>> > give it a go. If they arrive a few days later can I still sneak them in?
>>> >
>>> > Before I do any more on the routed pages I will finish off the work on
>>> > the
>>> > existing templates now that the work on the xwd is finished.
>>> >
>>> > The biggest issue I can see is the one of passing the name value from
>>> > the
>>> > xml data to be displayed as the page title and to populate the toc. Will
>>> > this all be done in the supporting swf files or will it be necessary to
>>> > alter the model files?
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards
>>> >
>>> > Johnathan
>>> >
>>> > On 29 February 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney
>>> > <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> I'd really like to get the next version done for 30th March, so I
>>> >> reckon
>>> >> that gives a little bit of time to add any new bits and pieces, and
>>> >> then,
>>> >> from Monday 5th March we concentrate on testing what's there and
>>> >> putting
>>> >> that straight. The testing needs to complete by around 23rd (or more or
>>> >> less) so we can start thinking about making the builds etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> Is that OK with everyone?
>>> >>
>>> >> As a heads up, after that we are going to be looking at developing the
>>> >> html5 runtime, for the next six months at least. We need to think hard
>>> >> about
>>> >> how to best manage any new functionality to the existing system whilst
>>> >> we
>>> >> develop that. I would like to put a line in the sand that says after
>>> >> this
>>> >> build, play_560 will have an example of every page template in it (this
>>> >> will
>>> >> be my contribution to the testing), and the html5 runtime will
>>> >> (eventually)
>>> >> handle every page type in the build. What's going to be hard is having
>>> >> people adding new templates whilst we try and replicate the
>>> >> functionality in
>>> >> the new stuff.
>>> >>
>>> >> In the long term, we also need to give some more serious thought to the
>>> >> implications of where we are going, because at some point, the HTML5
>>> >> runtime
>>> >> will become the primary delivery system, and we have to look to a
>>> >> future
>>> >> where xerte is not part of the toolkits ecosystem at all. Finger in the
>>> >> air,
>>> >> I'd say that's 18 months - 2 years away, but maybe less.
>>> >>
>>> >> Once we get stuck into the new HTML5 stuff, we won't be looking to
>>> >> spend
>>> >> any time on the existing interface, accessibility, etc, but will deal
>>> >> with
>>> >> it all 'on the other side' as it were. After April I won't be looking
>>> >> to
>>> >> increase the number of templates in the main distribution.
>>> >>
>>> >> One of the biggest challenges of all this is to come up with some
>>> >> sensible
>>> >> framework for the javascript / css etc that will make it easy for
>>> >> developers
>>> >> to add new templates in the future. I still anticipate the xwd driving
>>> >> the
>>> >> wizard form, and therefore some xml payload being delivered to your
>>> >> code -
>>> >> somehow - for you to use to drive your templates, but we haven't even
>>> >> started to really think about that just yet.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for all the work since September,
>>> >>
>>> >> J
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Tenney Julian
>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:04
>>> >> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>> >> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks very much Jonathan, that's brilliant
>>> >> ________________________________________
>>> >> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> >> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
>>> >> [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com]
>>> >> Sent: 22 February 2012 12:51
>>> >> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List
>>> >> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte 2.18 State of play
>>> >>
>>> >> The setting of a time frame for the next release of Xerte certainly
>>> >> serves
>>> >> to focus the mind.
>>> >>
>>> >> I have taken the liberty of trying to pull together a list of what I
>>> >> think
>>> >> still needs doing or deciding upon, and what has been agreed or
>>> >> completed. I
>>> >> am not trying to tread on anyones toes, or take over management of the
>>> >> project. I just want to be sure that everything is covered, that there
>>> >> are
>>> >> no misunderstandings or differences in expectation, so that the project
>>> >> delivers on time.
>>> >>
>>> >> I will upload the list to the Xerte svn in the pageWizards folder as
>>> >> "Project State of Play.rtf" and have attached a copy here for
>>> >> convenience.
>>> >>
>>> >> I am sure I will have missed somethings off the list, so please feel
>>> >> free
>>> >> to edit the version in the svn so that we can all keep up to date on
>>> >> progress.
>>> >>
>>> >> As people complete things perhaps they could update the document
>>> >> accordingly in the svn.
>>> >>
>>> >> Kind regards
>>> >>
>>> >> Johnathan
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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