[Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Tue Jun 26 22:47:45 BST 2012
Perfect, thank you!
Op 26-6-2012 23:44, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
> Hello Tom,
>
> I have now removed the nl-nl folders from the svn as requested.
> The wizard folder is en-GB as specified.
>
> I have removed the language="en-GB" entries from the model files which
> contained them.
>
> There is no longer a model folder in pageWizards.
>
> All changes to the models should be made to the model files in
>
> svn / runtime / pages / models /
>
> and the wizard files in
>
> svn / runtime / pages / wizards / en-GB
>
> as these files will be the model files for the next releases of Xerte
> and XOT
>
> Whilst the model files in svn / templates / pageTemplates / models
> represent the models used in the current pageTemplates projects they
> will become redundant once the next release is issued. Any changes to
> these files to fix current issues in pageTemplates or XOT will also
> need duplicating in the svn / runtime / pages / models / equivalent file.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 26 June 2012 19:04, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl
> <mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>> wrote:
>
> Johnathan,
>
> Thank you. A couple of remarks:
>
> The language files (not only the nl-NL, but all language files)
> are generated by xertrans.xerte.org.uk
> <http://xertrans.xerte.org.uk> from the en-GB files. So I'd rather
> not have them in svn as well.
>
> So:
> 1. you can delete the nl-nl folder as well.
> 2. you can delete the runtime nl_NL/nl-NL folder too.
> 3. I hope the new runtime en-GB is that and not en_GB
>
> Which one of the models folders will be leading?
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> Op 26-6-2012 19:14, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
>> I have completed most of the tidying up of the runtime and
>> pageWizards folders.
>>
>> As mentioned in an earlier post the nl-nl folder in pageWizards
>> appears to be out of date when compared to the nl-nl folder in
>> the desktop beta, so the new runtime nl_NL folder contains files
>> from the desktop beta. However temporarily I have left the
>> pageWizards nl-nl file intact just in case there is anything in
>> there that Tom needs.
>>
>> The only current duplication with respect to the Xerte svn is the
>> duplication of model files in
>>
>> svn / runtime/pages/models
>>
>> and
>>
>> svn / templates / pageTemplates / models
>>
>> Note: It will be possible in the next release to generate the
>> pageTemplates project from the model files without the need to
>> package an xtp file so the model files in runtime / pages /
>> models will be the definitive set of model files. If there is a
>> need to modify the files in the pageTemplates / models folders
>> prior to the release of the next version then any changes will
>> need to be replicated appropriately in the runtime / pages /
>> models equivalent file.
>>
>> You are all probably fully aware of this but there is no harm in
>> re-stating this :-)
>> No one wants things to get out of synch at this late stage of the
>> proceedings.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> The pageTemplates / models remain in the form that lacks [projPI]
>> so if these files
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 June 2012 17:23, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Might as well be consistent.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>> Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 26 June 2012 17:04
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>>
>> I'll start tidying up the svn shortly.
>>
>> "Hmmm, please make it en-GB. The fact that you have en-gb, is
>> because you had an old folder from an old install, and for
>> all purposes, for Windows en-GB and en-gb is the same, so the
>> new installer will NOT rename it."
>>
>> Just to be clear on upper and lower case, does the above
>> mean I need to rename the folders as below?
>>
>> runtime/pages/wizards/
>>
>> en-gb to en-GB
>>
>> nl-nl to nl-NL
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 26 June 2012 15:55, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Hang on, scrambled my paths there, but no matter. I'll let
>> Jonathan delete once he's got everything out of there he
>> needs to.
>>
>> Yes, let's delete the /pageWizards folder. Definitive one is
>> runtime/pages/models. They all look up to date to me.
>> Jonathan, can you delete /pageWizards when you're ready?
>>
>> Nice one.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>> Of *Julian Tenney
>> *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:49
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>>
>> > Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and
>> xwd files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to
>> which any future changes are now made?
>>
>> I'm treating runtime/pages/models as the definitive set. I
>> tend to develop in \templates\pageTemplates, copying models
>> into there from /runtime/pages/models, then copying them back
>> / into toolkits etc. When we do a build we also need to zip
>> up the xtps with the new models in.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>> Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 26 June 2012 15:43
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>>
>> I left the original pageWizard model and xwd files in place
>> as I did not want to cause any issues with anything you might
>> be doing Tom.
>>
>> "I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab
>> the files from a different place now."
>>
>> Does this mean that from now on we can treat the model and
>> xwd files in the runtime folder as the definitive set to
>> which any future changes are now made?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 26 June 2012 14:36, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl
>> <mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>> wrote:
>>
>> I'll update the xertetrans.xerte.org.uk
>> <http://xertetrans.xerte.org.uk> website code. It depends on
>> where the files are.
>> I'll also change the installer. Because I've got to grab the
>> files from a different place now.
>> I'll put a new beta installer up as soon as possible.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Op 25-6-2012 15:43, Julian Tenney schreef:
>>
>> Sounds good, yes.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:41
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>>
>> At present all the documentation is duplicated in open
>> office format and in pdf.
>>
>> This is so that an editable version is available for
>> translation or updating.
>>
>> So perhaps the pdfs would go in the help folder and the
>> open office source files kept elsewhere?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 25 June 2012 14:37, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, probably be a good candidate for the help folder
>> in /runtime, possibly even a link to it on the help menu,
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 25 June 2012 14:36
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>>
>> Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them
>> / add one ?
>>
>> We need some documentation here.
>>
>> I have now added an introduction and guide to the Page
>> Projects to the
>>
>> Page Wizards / supporting documents
>>
>> section of the svn (not sure where else you might want
>> this stuff at present so I guess its current location is
>> as good as anywhere for now.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Silly question time: when I run xerte from
>> /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don't I see all the pages on the
>> menu?
>>
>> Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them
>> / add one ?
>>
>> We need some documentation here.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Dave Burnett
>> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50
>>
>>
>> *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>>
>>
>> >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form
>> and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View /
>> Preview menu option stops working - no idea why.
>>
>> Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple
>> preview windows not being initialized?
>>
>> I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've
>> already run this logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it
>> again".
>>
>> I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code
>> *that I do want executed each time* inside that condition.
>>
>> So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview
>> to function?
>>
>> Can we display the state of those conditions while we run
>> through multiple View/Preview cycles?
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100
>> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>
>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>>
>> I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte
>> svn runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte
>> installation and the problem does not appear to be fixed.
>>
>> However the problem is a little more subtle than I first
>> realised.
>>
>> Open Xerte
>>
>> Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page
>> that had been added to the default project)
>>
>> Open the wizard for the plain text page
>>
>> In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result
>> - the preview works)
>>
>> Close the preview.
>>
>> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works)
>>
>> Close the page wizard form.
>>
>> Open the page wizard form once more.
>>
>> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to
>> take place)
>>
>> Use the forms play button instead and preview will work.
>>
>> It appears that for some reason once you open a page form
>> and do View / Preview and then close the form, the View /
>> Preview menu option stops working - no idea why.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> It's in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code,
>> search for 'viewMenu', I think that'll drop you right in...
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>>
>> Re: the preview link
>>
>> Which file would this relate to editor.swf?
>>
>> I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from
>> Tom's site.
>>
>> If you confirm which file this code is in I will
>> substitute the latest version from the svn in my Xerte
>> install and then test again.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I
>> just looked at the spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for
>> the new pages wizards in the editor: I put those symbols
>> in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding?
>>
>> Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can't
>> see anything wrong with this???
>>
>> viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) {
>>
>> if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label ==
>> languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) {
>>
>> preview();
>>
>> }
>>
>> }
>>
>> So not sure if this I still an issue?
>>
>> Last few things -- let's get this finished now,
>>
>> J
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