[Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff

[Kemp Johnathan]

The model files I am creating are initially created in Xerte and then
finally edited in FlashDevelop.

I haven't experienced this problem before with files using exactly the same
process.

The problem here may be that I have attempted to copy without using export
from one svn folder to another.

I will try Julian's suggestion of deleting the files and committing and
gettng to a point with ticks everywhere and then adding the files using an
exported set of files.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 22 June 2012 16:02, Dave Burnett <d_b_burnett at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  I think this may be particular to Johnathan.
>
> I've used UltraEdit using the sequence described to solve that type of
> issue.
> It sounds like there is a non-ASCII character being created somewhere.
> What are you using to save the copy?
> What are it's default save settings?
> Straight ASCII?
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:57:20 +0100
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
> > I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also
> hidden stuff in each file as well?
>
> I don’t know, but I know that copying things with simple copy / paste ends
> up with problems, because the info in the svn folders get’s all screwed up.
> So I always export anything, add the files as new files and then delete the
> old files.
>
>
>
> Try deleting the files, commit, get rid of the errors and get green ticks
> everywhere again, then export the files you want to copy, and then add them
> as new files and commit again.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 15:55
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
>
> At present the model files that are showing ! against them are copies of
> the model files in the pageWizards / models section of the svn.
>
>
>
> I created a folder outside of my copy of the svn and then copied the files
> from the svn into the folder (without the .svn folder).
>
> I then reverted the files in the svn to get back to a point with no !
>
> Then I updated to get the latest version and compared the updated files to
> the copy I had taken. The latest files do not contain the changes I
> committed. I compared them to my copies using winmerge portable.
>
>
>
> So I copied and pasted (plain old windows version of copy and paste) my
> back up copies of the files into the svn and the ! reappeared. Then I tried
> to commit the changes and a message displayed that there were no changes to
> commit.
>
>
>
> I thought the svn data was contained in the .svn folder. Is there also
> hidden stuff in each file as well?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 22 June 2012 15:24, Dave Burnett <d_b_burnett at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> How about:
>
>
>
> Open files in question, copy content to notepad and save new isolated file
> outside svn folders.
>
>
>
> Revert files until rid of !
>
>
>
> Update from svn to get latest.
>
>
>
> If you use UltraEdit instead of NotePad (and everyone should) you can do
> File Compare to see what's different between latest and isolated versions.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:17:56 +0100
>
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
> Getting a new copy of the svn would fix it, yes, but you’d lose your
> changes. I’ve found the !s hard to get rid of after some seemingly
> perfectly legitimate operations have produced them… always try and sort
> them out before doing anything else, but I’m not deep into Tortoise, so I
> don’t know how best to approach it,
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 15:15
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
>
> I did an update before I made any changes.
>
>
>
> I have run an update after the commit but the ! are still hanging around.
>
>
>
> According to the svn help the ! means
>
>
>
> The *Modified* overlay represents the modified state, where you have made
> local modifications, the merged state, where changes from the repository
> have been merged with local changes, and the replaced state, where a file
> has been deleted and replaced by another different file with the same name.
>
>
>
> If I remember correctly I copied the files from the pageWizards / models
> folder to the runtime / pages / models folder by highlighting the files in
> the pageWizards / models folder, right clicking and selecting copy, then
> right clicking on the destination folder and selecting Tortoise SVN / paste.
>
>
>
> The tortoise svn help says
>
> You can also copy or move versioned files within a working copy, or
> between two working copies, using the familiar cut-and-paste method. Use
> the standard Windows Copy or Cut to copy one or more versioned items to the
> clipboard. If the clipboard contains such versioned items, you can then use
> TortoiseSVN → Paste (note: not the standard Windows Paste) to copy or move
> those items to the new working copy location.
>
> "Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you’re gonna get in
> a mess."
>
>
>
> I am not sure how to get rid of the ! now. However if there is no problem
> with the Xerte svn i.e. the source from which I am now updating from and
> committing too, then I could just scrap my local copy and create a new
> local copy. Would that not sort it out?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 June 2012 14:10, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Try and get your repo to not show those !s, otherwise you’re gonna get in
> a mess.
>
>
>
> Try an update. Remember not to copy files directly within the repo
> otherwise the links to them the repo manages get copied as well: to
> duplicate files, export them, then add them as fresh files to the
> repository (this is important).
>
>
>
> Always do an update before any commits.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 14:07
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
>
> I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of
> the xerte svn
>
>
>
> I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the
> definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files.
>
>
>
> It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an
> installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder.
>
>
>
> I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer
> to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy
> that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder.
>
>
>
> Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated
> folders from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be
> confirmed as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two
> sets of duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion
> this can present.
>
>
>
> There are a few points to note.
>
>
>
> 1.      Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates /
> pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will
> be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than
> packaged in an xtp file.
>
> 2.      the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and
> in templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need
> removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also
> a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"?
>
> 3.      The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called
> "mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta.
>
> 4.      It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not
> up to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it
> may be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository?
> So for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder
> into xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl
>
> 5.      My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model
> files in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that
> needs resolving?
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as
> deleted. I think you can ;’move’ stuff within the repo though – That
> software is pretty clever, I’d be amazed they hadn’t thought of stuff like
> this…
>
>
>
> One thing, as a commiter I’m not sure if you can change the project
> structure, so let me know if you can’t add / remove folders.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>
> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 12:01
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
>
> OK will do.
>
>
>
> With respect to how turtle svn works
>
>
>
> If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards /
>
>
>
> and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the  xerte
> svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder  into the new en-gb folder ,
>
>
>
> will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a
> new location?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be
> an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and
> have a developer’s xerte run on your machines for testing etc,
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>
> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 11:15
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
>
> The pages only display once you have created a pages project.
>
>
>
> A word of warning.
>
>
>
> You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location
> of the latest rlm and xwd files.
>
>
>
> The latest files are still in
>
>
>
> Xerte svn / pageWizards / models
>
> Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB
>
>
>
> The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure
>
>
>
> Xerte / pages / models
>
> Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb
>
>
>
> The runtime folder has the structure
>
>
>
> Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models
>
> Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en
>
>
>
> This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that
> at present you are likely to hit two problems
>
> 1.      The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the
> release version expectations
>
> 2.      Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version.
>
> I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror
> the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set
> of files the better.
>
>
>
> During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the
> pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that
> section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the
> tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have
> the runtime section as the definitive source of all files.
>
>
>
> It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the
> svn that this would be temporary.
>
>
>
> I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I
> don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst
> development is still taking place.
>
>
>
> " We need some documentation here."
>
>
>
> I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have
> been responsible for.
>
>
>
> I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages
> project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don’t I
> see all the pages on the menu?
>
>
>
> Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ?
>
>
>
> We need some documentation here.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett
>
> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50
>
> *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
>
> >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View /
> Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops
> working - no idea why.
>
>
>
> Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not
> being initialized?
>
>
>
> I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this
> logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again".
>
> I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want
> executed each time* inside that condition.
>
>
>
> So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function?
>
> Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple
> View/Preview cycles?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100
>
> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
> I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn
> runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the
> problem does not appear to be fixed.
>
>
>
> However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised.
>
>
>
> Open Xerte
>
> Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been
> added to the default project)
>
> Open the wizard for the plain text page
>
> In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview
> works)
>
> Close the preview.
>
> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works)
>
> Close the page wizard form.
>
> Open the page wizard form once more.
>
> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place)
>
> Use the forms play button instead and preview will work.
>
>
>
> It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View /
> Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops
> working - no idea why.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> It’s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for
> ‘viewMenu’, I think that’ll drop you right in…
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>
> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
>
> Re: the preview link
>
>
>
> Which file would this relate to editor.swf?
>
>
>
> I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site.
>
>
>
> If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest
> version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the
> spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor:
> I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding?
>
>
>
> Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can’t see anything wrong
> with this???
>
>
>
> viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) {
>
>        if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label ==
> languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) {
>
>               preview();
>
>        }
>
> }
>
>
>
> So not sure if this I still an issue?
>
>
>
> Last few things – let’s get this finished now,
>
>
>
> J
>
>
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