[Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
Kemp Johnathan
johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
Fri Jun 22 14:06:35 BST 2012
I have now completed the first phase of retiring the pageWizard folder of
the xerte svn
I have set up the xerte svn / runtime / pages / folder to act as the
definitive source for model (.rlm) and wizard (.xwd) files.
It should now be possible to duplicate the experience of running an
installed version of xerte by running the xerte.exe from the runtime folder.
I have not removed anything from the pageWizards folder as I would prefer
to wait to do this until Julian and Tom have confirmed that they are happy
that all is OK with the changes to the runtime / pages folder.
Once I know everyone is happy :-) then I will delete the duplicated folders
from the pageWizard section. It would be helpful if this can be confirmed
as soon as possible so that we can minimise the time when two sets of
duplicated files are available with the potential for confusion this can
present.
There are a few points to note.
1. Once we move to the new version the svn folder templates /
pageTemplates / will become redundant as pageTemplates type projects will
be generated from the existing models and wizards folders rather than
packaged in an xtp file.
2. the current versions of template.xml (i.e. in runtime / pages and in
templates / pageTemplates ) both contain some page definitions that need
removing in order to present the user with an empty project. There is also
a reference to language="en-GB" - should this be language="en-gb"?
3. The current xerte svn / pages / folder contains a folder called
"mapstraction" which is not currently contained in the xerte beta.
4. It appears that the Xerte svn / pageWizards / nl-nl folder is not up
to date when compared with the xerte.exe beta set of nl-nl files. So it may
be that the nl-nl files are being worked on outside of the repository? So
for now I have copied the xwd files from the Xerte beta nl-nl folder into
xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards / nl-nl
5. My copy of the xerte svn is showing ! marks against the model files
in runtime / pages / models / is this indicative of any issue that needs
resolving?
Kind regards
Johnathan
On 22 June 2012 12:03, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
Not sure, probably not. It willsee them as new files, and the old files as
> deleted. I think you can ;’move’ stuff within the repo though – That
> software is pretty clever, I’d be amazed they hadn’t thought of stuff like
> this…
>
>
>
> One thing, as a commiter I’m not sure if you can change the project
> structure, so let me know if you can’t add / remove folders.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 12:01
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
>
> OK will do.
>
>
>
> With respect to how turtle svn works
>
>
>
> If I create a folder in "en-gb" in Xerte svn / runtime / pages / wizards /
>
>
>
> and then copy all the contents ( including the .svn folder ) of the xerte
> svn / runtime / pageWizards / en-GB folder into the new en-gb folder ,
>
>
>
> will this preserve the update history of the files now that they are in a
> new location?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 June 2012 11:18, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Then go ahead and set up the runtime folder as you need it: it should be
> an exact copy of the installed folder, so we can easily run the exe and
> have a developer’s xerte run on your machines for testing etc,
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 22 June 2012 11:15
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
>
> The pages only display once you have created a pages project.
>
>
>
> A word of warning.
>
>
>
> You may recall some discussions from a while back regarding the location
> of the latest rlm and xwd files.
>
>
>
> The latest files are still in
>
>
>
> Xerte svn / pageWizards / models
>
> Xerte svn / pageWizards / en-GB
>
>
>
> The beta release of Xerte has the following folder structure
>
>
>
> Xerte / pages / models
>
> Xerte / pages / wizards / en-gb
>
>
>
> The runtime folder has the structure
>
>
>
> Xerte svn / runtime / pages / models
>
> Xerte svn / runtime / wizards / en
>
>
>
> This means that if you try running xerte.exe from the runtime folder that
> at present you are likely to hit two problems
>
> 1. The folder structure for locating the wizards does not match the
> release version expectations
>
> 2. Many of the model and xwd files are not the latest version.
>
> I think that the sooner we can have the runtime section set up to mirror
> the release version, with the same folder structure and the most recent set
> of files the better.
>
>
>
> During the development I believe Tom has preferred to work in the
> pageWizards section and I have carried out my development work in that
> section. IMHO as we now move towards releasing the next version part of the
> tidying up process must be to retire the pageWizards section and to have
> the runtime section as the definitive source of all files.
>
>
>
> It was always my intention, when I set up the pageWizards folder in the
> svn that this would be temporary.
>
>
>
> I don't mind carrying out the tidy up, but have not done so because I
> don't want to lose any versioning history or to cause any confusion whilst
> development is still taking place.
>
>
>
> " We need some documentation here."
>
>
>
> I have put some documentation together for the new page types that I have
> been responsible for.
>
>
>
> I can put together a brief explanation about how to create a pages
> project, unless you prefer to include this in the help file.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 22 June 2012 08:57, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Silly question time: when I run xerte from /runtime/Xerte.exe, why don’t I
> see all the pages on the menu?
>
>
>
> Do I need to create a pages project before I can see them / add one ?
>
>
>
> We need some documentation here.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett
> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 17:50
> *To:* xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
> >It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View /
> Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops
> working - no idea why.
>
>
>
> Perhaps some code that prevents spawning of multiple preview windows not
> being initialized?
>
>
>
> I have code at the top of some pages that says "if you've already run this
> logic (duplicate some pages) don't do it again".
>
> I trip myself up occasionally when I place other code *that I do want
> executed each time* inside that condition.
>
>
>
> So, what condition(s) must hold in order for View/Preview to function?
>
> Can we display the state of those conditions while we run through multiple
> View/Preview cycles?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:31:01 +0100
> From: johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
> I have taken a copy of the wizard.swf file from the xerte svn
> runtime/tools folder and swapped it into my xerte installation and the
> problem does not appear to be fixed.
>
>
>
> However the problem is a little more subtle than I first realised.
>
>
>
> Open Xerte
>
> Open a pages project (I used one with a plain text page that had been
> added to the default project)
>
> Open the wizard for the plain text page
>
> In the wizard form for the page do View / Preview (result - the preview
> works)
>
> Close the preview.
>
> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (again preview works)
>
> Close the page wizard form.
>
> Open the page wizard form once more.
>
> Do View Preview in the page wizard form (preview fails to take place)
>
> Use the forms play button instead and preview will work.
>
>
>
> It appears that for some reason once you open a page form and do View /
> Preview and then close the form, the View / Preview menu option stops
> working - no idea why.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 21 June 2012 14:45, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> It’s in the wizard, towwards the bottom of the code, search for
> ‘viewMenu’, I think that’ll drop you right in…
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 21 June 2012 14:28
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Outstanding stuff
>
>
>
> Re: the preview link
>
>
>
> Which file would this relate to editor.swf?
>
>
>
> I found the fault in the beta release I downloaded from Tom's site.
>
>
>
> If you confirm which file this code is in I will substitute the latest
> version from the svn in my Xerte install and then test again.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 21 June 2012 10:34, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I know we are waiting on some final finishing off, : I just looked at the
> spreadsheet: re issue 4, the icons for the new pages wizards in the editor:
> I put those symbols in the editor library so it might just need rebuilding?
>
>
>
> Re: the preview link not working from the menu: I can’t see anything wrong
> with this???
>
>
>
> viewMenuListener.change = function(obj) {
>
> if (obj.menuItem.attributes.label ==
> languageData.viewmenu[0].menuPreview) {
>
> preview();
>
> }
>
> }
>
>
>
> So not sure if this I still an issue?
>
>
>
> Last few things – let’s get this finished now,
>
>
>
> J
>
>
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