[Xerte-dev] Re: Advanced Options in Wizard

[Kemp Johnathan]

 If you could put those straight, that would be a load of stuff off our
list?

I didn't know it was on the list ! :-)

OK - but it may have to wait a short while.

I mentioned a court case in an earlier posting and there is some stuff
related to that which I now have to give my full attention to and which
cannot wait any longer.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 13 July 2012 10:09, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> I think they should all go on the language checkbox: it’s not about
> scrolling, it’s about simplicity, and keeping simple things simple. Hangman
> is a good example: simple, but the form looks more daunting than it needs
> to when it exposes those properties.
>
>
>
> If you could put those straight, that would be a load of stuff off our
> list?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 13 July 2012 10:00
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Advanced Options in Wizard
>
>
>
> Before the internationalisation actions were taken there was some
> inconsistency between the different models. Some models had text that was
> displayed to the user in the model for the page e.g. a "feedback" label for
> a button. Other pages provided for some author access by including text for
> buttons in the xwd form. Typically these latter pages, as I recall, tended
> not to have many entries in their xwd forms.
>
>
>
> When I converted the pages for internationalisation I removed all language
> text from the models and made it accessible from the xwd form. The
> availability of a language check box came part way through that process, as
> a result of some pages e.g. the quiz page, having a lot of new elements to
> the form, which resulted in the form being significantly larger than the
> display space, requiring significant scrolling of the form in order to see
> all the fields.
>
>
>
> So the current situation is one in which there are some pages, like the
> hangman page that were modified for internationalisation prior to the
> availability of the language check box. The forms for these pages tends to
> still fit within the available display space with no need to scroll the
> form to see all the fields in the form.
>
>
>
> For perfect consistency fields in forms, which have values that are likely
> to remain the same for every page in which that page type is used (that is
> button labels, button widths, text such as "Question"  "of" etc.) perhaps
> should be flagged in the xwd form with the language attribute so that they
> only display when the language option check box is ticked. However this
> does not compromise the functioning of the form.
>
>
>
> I did not revisit every form once the language check box became available
> as the forms did not require scrolling. At the time I was more focussed on
> dealing with the changing requirements of the Connector pages - removal of
> separate language sections in the xwds, adding features to the Hotspot
> Image Connector etc.
>
>
>
> The "advanced" option was not a feature I used in any of the forms. I
> think the feature will prove useful, but the changes I was making at the
> time all fell under the heading of "language".
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 13 July 2012 08:41, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> I thought all the text for buttons labels and all that stuff was going to
> be in one of the check boxes, so you don’t see it by default?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 12 July 2012 16:57
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Advanced Options in Wizard
>
>
>
> If I recall correctly Advanced was added then rather than change it to
> Language, Language was added as a second check box.
>
>
>
> I used Language for all the language text but never used Advanced. It was
> kind of left there because it would probably prove useful at some time.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 12 July 2012 10:58, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> So far I haven’t found any templates where advanced options show. Here’s a
> good example where the extra options should be advanced in Hangman: most
> people will not need the last four fields. These should be advanced?
>
>
>
> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>
>
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