[Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release

[Pat Lockley]

I think this is a use case though

Install once, delete setup (or cripple setup).

Installing a second time = upgrade and therefore a different process now?

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:02 PM, David Goodwin <david at palepurple.co.uk> wrote:
> I would have added the drop's so if you're installing it a second time (over
> the top of an existing one) you don't get a load of error messages from
> MySQL/PHP saying "TAble X already exists" or whatever.
>
> Presumably if you're doing a re-install you expect (and want to?) lose
> anything which might already be there.
>
>
> David.
>
> On 12 Jul 2012, at 11:59, Pat Lockley wrote:
>
> Erm
>
> Well, the XAMPP version relies on
>
> 1) The database server being called localhost
> 2) The folder being xertetoolkits
> 3) The passwords being the default
>
> So if you had 1.7 and then tried to install 1.8 on the same local PC - it'd
> die I suspect on the fact the xampp.sql in setup doesn't have any drop
> commands.
>
> But it'd not work anyways as you'd never be able to access it (as the urls
> and paths are fixed). So a second xampp install would point to
> http://localhost/xertetoolkits/ - but that would be the old 1.7 install. So
> the 1.8 install wouldn't ever really be accessible.
>
> The XAMPP install is more important (in my mind) than the full install -
> just because it gives people who aren't technical a chance of getting it
> installed.
> It is a valid question though as there are now drop statements in basic.sql
> - which weren't there originally. I think the drops are a bit of a risk, but
> happy to be told otherwise.
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I don’t know, this has always been an issue I guess. Warn the user? Try
>> and migrate the content from one to another?
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
>> Sent: 12 July 2012 11:22
>>
>>
>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes but as I said what happens if there's already an install?
>>
>> Meeting now will test again later.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>> Sent: 12 July 2012 11:13
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>>
>>
>>
>> The quick one.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it’s there to give a real easy way of setting up for the
>> non-techs, I think that’s important.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
>> Sent: 12 July 2012 11:13
>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>>
>>
>>
>> I've not seen that error but I always use the full install option when
>> testing with xampp not the quick xampp install option. Which did you use?
>>
>>
>>
>> Although I understand why the quick install option is there I've always
>> thought that has disadvantages too e.g. what happens when someone thinks ok
>> I'll test 1.8 on the same xampp install where I have 1.7. They create a new
>> directory, run setup, choose the xampp option rather than full install -
>> does it overwrite the existing 1.7 database or fail to install because the
>> database already exists?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have an online meeting now until about 12.30 but will test xampp stuff
>> after that.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>> Sent: 12 July 2012 10:53
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>>
>>
>>
>> OK. So how do we stop the error?
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
>> Sent: 12 July 2012 10:53
>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>>
>>
>>
>> By default when you do a new install the guest access is enabled. You then
>> need to edit config.php and comment/uncomment the authentication required.
>> So no for a demo.txt etc and means it's easy to test that the install has
>> completed correctly before enable chosen authentication.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 12 July 2012 09:47
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know how authentication works anymore, the old XAMPP route used to
>> copy demo so people didn't have to do it, but with the new authentication I
>> don't know if demo is spurious anymore?
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> What do I need to do?
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 12 July 2012 09:39
>>
>>
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation for 1.8 Release
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm guessing that the old setup had demo.txt in, and demo.txt has been
>> removed from /setup?
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Doing an xampp install I get this error, what’s the problem?
>>
>>
>>
>> <image001.png>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>> Sent: 12 July 2012 09:35
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Preparation for 1.8 Release
>>
>>
>>
>> A couple of us are going to deploy Toolkits 1.8 in anger next Friday:
>> everyone seems to think that everything is ready, it would be good to have
>> one final check that everything we think works still does.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron, can you update the test server with the latest svn files so we can
>> see it running on a server please?
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone do an LDAP setup and test that?
>>
>>
>>
>> Can everyone do a localhost / xampp setup and check all your bits and
>> pieces still work please?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
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