[Xerte-dev] New models and quiz
Inge Donkervoort 12Change
i.donkervoort at 12change.eu
Tue Feb 28 11:26:22 GMT 2012
Hi Jonathan,
We had a look at your work so far, looking good! Toppie :)
We were just wondering what happened to the Quiz?
Also with respect to your question about pages for the development mode
or XOT mode only, Tom suggest to ad an attribute to the xwd.
Bye,
Inge
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Op 27-2-2012 17:39, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> You can't run debug() in XOT but both _level0jumpData.fileType and
> _level0.jumpData.fileType result in undefined.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp
> Johnathan
> *Sent:* 27 February 2012 15:45
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte editor closes if you add a setup
> script to the Learning Object icon
>
> OK, I think I've found what can be used.
>
> I don't have a working XOT installation.
>
> Would someone mind just adding the following into a page in a XOT
> installation
>
> debug("fileType = " + _level0jumpData.fileType);
>
> I am expecting it to return
>
> fileType = .rlt
>
> Which is what I get from a pageTemplates project.
>
> If it does then I can use
>
> if (_level0jumpData.fileType.toLowerCase() == ".rlo"){
> // Page Wizard
>
> as the test for a desktop project V a XOT / pageTemplates project
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 27 February 2012 13:30, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> I think it's passed into the piece from the web page as the variable
> 'file'. It will be on _level0.
>
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> Johnathan
> *Sent:* 27 February 2012 13:30
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte editor closes if you add a setup
> script to the Learning Object icon
>
> I believe you, but I'm b******d if I can find it.
>
> I can find a number of calls to jumpFile e.g. jumpFile(FILE);
>
> but I can't find where FILE is assigned a value.
>
> I have inspected in Xerte
>
> engine
>
> engine.IFC
>
> _level0.engine
>
> there is a urls property but it is, in a simple project, an array of 0
> length.
>
> I am sorry, I don't know where else to look and I need the time to
> work on the rest of the 2.18 stuff.
>
> I will see how much progress I can make over the next few days and
> then try again.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 27 February 2012 12:36, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> But in thepreloader the xml is laoded. So it must know what file to
> load in there somewhere.
>
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> Johnathan
> *Sent:* 27 February 2012 12:23
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte editor closes if you add a setup
> script to the Learning Object icon
>
> OK I can see in MainPreloader the jumpFile(url) method, and its
> reference to
>
> this.contentXML._url
>
> but if I try in xerte to
>
> debug("contentXML = " + _level0.contentXML._url);
>
> I still get contentXML = undefined.
>
> If I try
>
> debug("contentXML = " + contentXML._url);
>
> I get
>
> contentXML = file://C:\Xerte2\XMLEngine.swf?id=133401039
> <file:///C:%5CXerte2%5CXMLEngine.swf?id=133401039>
>
> I don't know enough about the workings of Flash and Xerte to make any
> changes here but if you are able to add some code that will make the
> rlo or rlt file name (or even just the extension) accessible as a
> property I can test against, then I could use this as my test for
> desktop V XOT / pageTemplate.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 27 February 2012 07:55, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> If you look in MainPreloader, you'll see how the variable is getting
> set: maybe put something in there to store the path / fileType better?
>
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> Johnathan
> *Sent:* 25 February 2012 21:13
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte editor closes if you add a setup
> script to the Learning Object icon
>
> Hello Julian,
>
> _level0.contentXML._url - this returns undefined
>
> _level0.engine.contentXML._url or rootIcon.contentXM._url both return
>
> file://C:Xerte2\XMLEngine.swf?id=77679910
> <file:///C:Xerte2%5CXMLEngine.swf?id=77679910>
>
> (my install folder is C:\xerte2)
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 24 February 2012 10:20, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> Test this:
>
> _level0.contentXML._url
>
> It should be the url to the rlo / rlt file, with the extension on the end.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tenney Julian
>
> Sent: 24 February 2012 09:41
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte editor closes if you add a setup
> script to the Learning Object icon
>
> if (pageIcon.extXML != undefined){
> // Page Wizard
>
> Yes, I think that will work. In any case, any engine test could also
> be written in the template.rlt, it will only use the same information
> to judge the situation.
>
> Some usful thigns for testing environments:
>
> if the LO has template data...
> if a page has templateData...?
> if mdm != undefined you are at design time in xerte on windows
> if templatePath != undefined you are on a toolkits server else you're not.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tenney Julian
> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:47
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte editor closes if you add a setup
> script to the Learning Object icon
>
> They don't at the moment, but I think you need an engine-side test.
> I'll write something for you.
> ________________________________________
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> Johnathan [johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>]
> Sent: 22 February 2012 07:18
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte editor closes if you add a setup script
> to the Learning Object icon
>
> Would it ever be the case that a XOT project would assign a value to a
> page Icon's templateData property?
>
> If this would never happen then I can just reverse the original test,
> instead of testing for a project extXML I can test for pageIcon.extXML
>
> if (pageIcon.extXML != undefined){
> // Page Wizard
>
> What do you think?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 21 February 2012 16:54, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
> Maybe you can check the value of the templateData attribute on LO
> icon? If undefined, it must be page wizards... otherwise irs either
> XOT or a desktop template project.
>
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> Johnathan
> Sent: 21 February 2012 16:53
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte editor closes if you add a setup script
> to the Learning Object icon
>
> Neither am I.
>
> I was going to ask you if you had any ideas where I would be able to
> access it.
>
> Is the project file in a XOT project always called template? as in
> template.rlt.
>
> It might be easier to check the file name rather than the extension as
> this will be available in templateData.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 21 February 2012 14:38, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
> Not sure how you get it mind.
>
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> Johnathan
> Sent: 21 February 2012 14:38
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte editor closes if you add a setup script
> to the Learning Object icon
>
> Sounds do-able, i'll have a go.
>
> JK
>
> On 21 February 2012 13:16, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
> Could you work on the filename, so if rlt else pageTemplates?
>
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> Johnathan
> Sent: 21 February 2012 12:52
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Xerte editor closes if you add a setup script
> to the Learning Object icon
>
> Hello Julian,
>
> Thanks for a quick fix - all tests so far suggest this has solved the
> problem :-)
>
> Now that I am working on a default .rlo file for the "page projects" I
> am including a template and xwd file which is resulting in there being
> an extXML, it also means that now the project can take the project
> name from the extXML file just as with pageTemplates / XOT.
>
> So I need a new test for identifying when the model is in XOT /
> pageTemplate projects and when it is in a desktop project.
>
> What I would like to do is work on the principle that in XOT /
> pageTemplate projects the setup script will define a variable "xMode"
>
> Then I can replace the original block
>
> if (extXML == undefined){
> // Page Wizard
> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject();
> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0];
> } else {
> // Toolkits
> myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex()
> - pgOffset]);
> pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject();
> rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name);
> }
>
> with
>
> if (xMode == undefined){
> // Page Wizard
> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.firstChild.toObject();
> // pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0];
> } else {
> // Toolkits
> myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex()
> - pgOffset]);
> pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject();
> // rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name);
> }
> rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name);
>
> The commented lines of code would be removed - they are just there to
> make explicit the changes I am proposing.
>
> Not requiring to define a value for xMode in a desktop environment
> would make it easier to use the models in a pure desktop project (i.e.
> one in which the developer did not even use the "Create new Page
> Project option"), but it would need that all XOT projects and future
> pageTemplate projects had the xMode variable set.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Given that the line
> rootIcon.setTitleText(templateData.learningObject[0].name);
>
> works, would it also mean that if we had a method for the page icon to
> set it's title property that we could use
>
> pageIcon.setTitleText(pageIcon.templateData.pageType[0].name);
>
> As a way of overcoming the problem of using the name value to set up
> the page title display (probably wouldn't sort out the display of page
> titles in the TOC though) mmm.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
>
> On 21 February 2012 11:25, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
> Try this one please.
>
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> Johnathan
> Sent: 20 February 2012 22:51
> To: Xerte Developers Discussion List
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Xerte editor closes if you add a setup script to
> the Learning Object icon
>
> I've been doing some tests as part of establishing a standard
> pagetemplate.rlo file for the new version of the xerte editor that
> handles individual page templates..
>
> However I have hit a problem. I want to include one or more set up
> scripts as children of the Learning Object.
>
> If you add a setup script then this breaks the process of adding a new
> page. The folder for the page is created in the "pages" folder and the
> xwd and xml files are created in the page's folder. However the
> insertion of the page model file into the project fails. This means
> that if you select "Yes" when the "Open the wizard" prompt is
> displayed then Xerte collapses to the task bar and won't open again.
>
> If you then close down Xerte and then re-open the project the project
> behaves correctly until you try adding another page.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
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