[Xerte-dev] Re: Interactive Diagram Page (customHotspots.rlm)

[Kemp Johnathan]

I am guessing that what you are talking about here is a modification to the
code that implements the processing of xwd files, to add this functionality.

It certainly sounds like following option a) discussed above, but with the
capability to hide / show the display text fields is the way to go.

I will defer any further work on the internationalisation of the
customHotspots page for now. If you, or a colleague, could implement the
functionality you mentioned above, then I will be happy to test it out on a
new form for the customHotspots page.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 2 February 2012 13:38, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>wrote:

> No, but could do it easily: just in the same option=”true” works, so could
> displayText=”true” and by default not show those controls; then the users
> selects ‘show display text’ box, flip the flag and rebuild the form.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 02 February 2012 13:24
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Interactive Diagram Page (customHotspots.rlm)
>
>
>
> Is the functionality you are referring to currently available in for use
> in xwd files?
>
>
>
> I am unaware that you can display fields in an xwd form based on the value
> of a field in the form.
>
>
>
> It would be useful to be able to break a form up into sections and be able
> to hide or display each section, in a similar way to being able to expand
> or collapse the structure of a page in the project tree.
>
>
>
> If any of this functionality is currently available to xwd forms, do you
> have any examples that would point me in the right direction?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 2 February 2012 12:21, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> a)      Yes.
>
>
>
> Maybe we should have an option in the wizad to display the display text
> fields?
>
>
>
> Then in the xwd we can say ‘isDisplaytext’ and in the wizard check before
> adding the control?’ Have it toggleable by the user?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 02 February 2012 11:23
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Interactive Diagram Page (customHotspots.rlm)
>
>
>
> Assuming the approach you refer to above could be made to work, what would
> be the preference for the Xerte project?
>
>
>
> a) The page as it operates now, offering backward compatibility with
> existing toolkit projects customHotspot pages, but at a cost of having a
> rather long form with all the display text strings listed at the bottom of
> the form so that the author can edit them.
>
>
>
> b) A redesigned form that kept the display text in a separate sub form,
> but at a cost of losing backward compatibility with existing toolkit
> project based customHotspot pages, due to structural changes in the pages
> xml data.
>
>
>
> I'm guessing option a) but its not my call to make.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 2 February 2012 08:34, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Hmm. Not sure. That’s a bit tricky. The CDATA is needed – it’s there as a
> placeholder to force the node to be a text node; without it, you can push
> xml into the nodeValue, and the custom hotspots is xml data. It can’t be
> stored as an attribute because of the formatting.
>
>
>
> The answer is to re-jig the nodes slightly, but this might break existing
> stuff…
>
>
>
> <node>
>
>   <payload>CDATA</payload> //a text node for the xml describing the
> drawing.
>
>   <children/> //children get added to this, not the page
>
> </node>
>
>
>
> …and I’m not sure how that’s going to work in the wizard.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 01 February 2012 19:32
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Interactive Diagram Page (customHotspots.rlm)
>
>
>
> Thank you for figuring out what was wrong with the mcq part of the page.
>
>
>
> If you check your model file you will find a couple of references to
> "hotspotImage" that should be "customHotspots".
>
>
>
> The format of the xwd newNode line with the inclusion of CDATA (shown in
> blue) to receive the drawing information is different to most other xwd
> files
>
>
>
> <newNodes>
> <customHotspots><![CDATA[<customHotspots name="Enter Page Title"
> text="Enter text for the page here" highlightColour="0xFFFF00"
> lineWidth="1" interactivity="Hotspots" showShapes="true">CDATA
> </customHotspots>]]></customHotspots>
> </newNodes>
>
>
>
> Compared for example to the quiz page equivalent in which there is no
> CDATA entry between the main block and the ending </quiz> tag.
>
>
>
> <newNodes>
> <quiz><![CDATA[<quiz name="Enter Quiz Title" order="random"
> numQuestions="All" align="left" panelWidth="Medium" instructions="Provide
> instructions here" judge="true" feedback="Provide feedback here"/>]]></quiz>
> </newNodes>
>
>
>
> I have performed tests, trying to remove the CDATA but it appears
> essential for holding the drawing data.
>
>
>
> However this in itself appears to be creating an issue in that the
> presence of the CDATA entry prevents the addition of any child data items
> to the page.
>
>
>
> I have tried adding a child item and what happens in the display of the
> xwd form is that the child item is preceded in the page structure display
> at the left of the form by a prior entry which lists as
>
>
>
> [type Function][type Function]
>
>
>
> The child entry is displayed below this and the child data is displayed in
> the form's right-hand panel. However on closing the form the information
> for the child item is lost. If you re-order the sequence so that the child
> item is above the [type Function][type Function] entry, then on closing the
> form the child data is saved but the drawing data is lost.
>
>
>
> Do you know of any way we could get around this so that a child item can
> be added?
>
>
>
> The page contains quite a number of display text that is built into the
> model. e.g. "question 1 of 3", "Explore the diagram, click on the various
> parts to learn more".
>
> To internationalise the page I need to put this text in an author
> modifiable format in the xwd form. I would prefer to have a newNode item
> that could present a form for this data. There are to many entries to add
> them to the main form without producing a very lengthy form. I know I can
> just add the data items to the newNode line for the page but I want also to
> allow the Author to be able to change the default values. I cannot make
> them simply optional properties as they will all display in the main form
> as soon as I include the default values in the newNodes line that creates
> the page. Further I don't want the author to be able to delete the values.
>
>
>
> Anyone any ideas how a child node could be added to this page?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 1 February 2012 14:05, Fay Cross <Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks, I’ll add in a brief instruction for this page
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 01 February 2012 13:04
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Interactive Diagram Page (customHotspots.rlm)
>
>
>
> Add info using <info><![CDATA[Here is page of some stuff]]></info> in the
> xwd.
>
>
>
> It shows in blue text at the bottom of the wizard.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Fay Cross
> *Sent:* 01 February 2012 11:51
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Interactive Diagram Page (customHotspots.rlm)
>
>
>
> There was a bug – it only worked if you had at least 4 things in the
> diagram.  It’s fixed in the attached version.
>
>
>
> On a different point, I hadn’t looked at this page type before and it took
> me a ridiculously long time to work out how to add the text to go with each
> part of the diagram.  I was convinced there was a new nodes bit missing
> until I found where to put it.  Am I just being a bit slow this morning and
> is it clear to everyone else? Or do you think it needs to have some
> instructions with it – can you add explanatory text to a page in the wizard?
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 30 January 2012 13:24
> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Interactive Diagram Page (customHotspots.rlm)
>
>
>
> I am about to start extracting the language strings from the rlm file but
> find during prior testing that if I select the mcq option that the page
> just stops responding on preview.
>
>
>
> Is this a known bug? What is supposed to happen?
>
>
>
> I have tested this both in a Page Templates project and in an individual
> page template project using the customHotspots.rlm file and an xwd derived
> from the contents in templates.xwd.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
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