[Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: Embed content page

Thu Feb 2 11:53:40 GMT 2012

Hi all

firstly apologies for what will be a long message and also I decided it
would be better to continue to discuss this on the dev list rather than the
main list hope that's ok...

I'm a big fan of the embed content page because it addresses one of the
barriers a lot of people come up with about not being able to embed their
favourite web 2 sites/resources etc to big thanks to whoever contributed to
this!

So anyway to continue this thread and Jonthan's tests I've been testing and
comparing files and versions and I think Julian indicated the most
up-to-date embedDiv.rlm is in the xerte svn rather than xot svn. However I
could easily be wrong but from my tests I don't think that's the case. I'm
assuming that the code in embedDiv.rlm and it's dependencies evolved since
it was first added and I think at first the window size was fixed regardless
of LO screen size setting and at some point Julian or Pat or someone else?
improved this  so that the embed window reflected the LO screen size
setting. From my tests this works great with one possible caveat that I'll
cover below but first the difference between the current xerte embedDiv.rlm
and the current XOT embedDiv.rlm. I think the latter is newer and the
correct/best version and the crucial difference is shown in the attached txt
file.

The other key issue from my tests is what happens when an XOT LO using the
embed content or new window page is exported. Here's the result of my tests:

\website_code\php\scorm\scorm_library.php is what creates the index.htm
which is part of the normal zip export

As far as I can tell it does this by opening
\modules\xerte\player\rloObject.htm and renaming that as index.htm and
adding to the zip

When exporting as scorm a similar thing happens but in this case it's
\modules\xerte\scorm\scormRLO.htm that get's opened and made part of the
exported zip

So at the moment when exporting from XOT as either normal zip or scorm zip
the embed content and new window pages don't work because
\modules\xerte\player\rloObject.htm and \modules\xerte\scorm\scormRLO.htm
don't currently contain the relevant window code. 

When previewing or playing via xot the embed content and new window pages
work because the required window code is in \modules\xerte\preview_xerte_top

The quickest solution is to add the relevant code from
\modules\xerte\preview_xerte_top to both \modules\xerte\player\rloObject.htm
and \modules\xerte\scorm\scormRLO.htm These then get exported as part of the
zip and include the code to make the pages work. As well as the window and
div code there's a line towards the end of the files that also needs to be
in place: <div id="popup_parent"/> 

I've added the code to both these pages and tested and it seems to work
fine. I could commit those changes to the XOT svn but have attached all the
files here for Pat or someone else to check and verify before doing so.
Especially in case I'm wrong about all this or if there are other
versions/revisions flying around?

The one issue I have found with this and it may be unique to my IE 8 is that
when first viewed the embed content page window isn't the correct size in IE
when the default LO screen size is anything but fill window. However it
works fine when the windows size is changed and it works fine regardless of
LO screen size in Firefox and Safari. To test this view
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 and use the toc to navigate to
the embed content example on page 29. On my Windows 7 laptop it works fine
in Firefox and Safari but in IE 8 the embed window is much larger than the
default 800 x 600 LO until changing the screen size option and then
navigating away from and back to that page. Is it the same for you in IE? Is
there a fix? Before someone says it a fix other than "don't use IE!" ;-)

HTH

Ron

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 31 January 2012 14:04
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embed content page

I have the Opera javascript console enabled and it displays errors from a
test script. However when I view the embed content page in a xerte published
project there are no errors displayed. The project displays but there is
simply no content embeded.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 31 January 2012 13:43, Pat Lockley <patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>
wrote:

any JS errors?

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Kemp Johnathan
<johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Yep,
>
> I found the javascript in index.htm of my published project, but I can't
get
> the page to work.
>
> I have created a simple test javascript page with a couple of
document.write
> statements and an alert popup and they work, so javascript is definitely
> running in the browser.
>
> So I am some what stumped as far as testing the page goes.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 31 January 2012 12:36, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> In index.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
>> Sent: 31 January 2012 12:32
>>
>>
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embed content page
>>
>>
>>
>> I have just compared the content of the rlm file from pageTemplates with
>> that of the XOT svn dated 13/12/2011 (which I downloaded as part of a so
far
>> unsuccessful attempt to get toolkits running.)
>>
>>
>>
>> There are some differences which I have now added to my rlm file for the
>> individual page template, but the page continues to fail to display in
>> either Opera or Internet Explorer.
>>
>>
>>
>> I suspect the problem lies in the line
>>
>>
>>
>> callJS('makePopUp', params);
>>
>>
>>
>> Where is the javascript located? Is it part of swfObject, or a separate
>> file?
>>
>>
>>
>> I suspect the problem is mainly one of not having access to the
>> javascript?
>>
>> So where would I find the relevant javascript files in the XOT svn
folders
>> and where would I need to install them in a standalone Xerte
installation?
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31 January 2012 11:46, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Having said that it works in toolkits here. Not sure about local.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>> Sent: 31 January 2012 11:45
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Embed content page
>>
>>
>>
>> Just works here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Error! Filename not specified.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
>> Sent: 31 January 2012 11:43
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Embed content page
>>
>>
>>
>> I am trying to get the embed content page to work
>>
>> I have created a page in a pagetemplates project and entered into the url
>> the value
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>> However when I preview the page the content is empty. I suspect the page
>> may only work in published projects so I then published the project.
>>
>> I have opened the project in both Opera and Internet Explorer and no
>> content displays.
>>
>>
>>
>> Am I entering the content incorrectly in Embed code or url field of the
>> form.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can someone suggest a value I can use that is known to work?
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
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