[Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
Julian Tenney
Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Thu Aug 30 10:51:58 BST 2012
> It may work; or be very close to working.
Thanks.
> I'd strongly suggest you try it on a demo/non-live environment first.
Understood.
-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 30 August 2012 10:51
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
On 30 Aug 2012, at 10:37, Julian Tenney wrote:
> Brill, thanks,
Hi,
Try running svn update and then run / point a browser at 'upgrade.php'.
It may work; or be very close to working.
You'll need to modify config.php to specify you want an LDAP backend etc.
I'd strongly suggest you try it on a demo/non-live environment first.
David.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David
> Goodwin
> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:37
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>
> I am... give me 5 minutes.
>
> David
>
>
> On 30 Aug 2012, at 10:28, Julian Tenney wrote:
>
>> I know. I'll be blunt - could someone write one?
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>> Lockley
>> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:28
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>>
>> you need a script with read the values from sitedetails and imported
>> it into the ldap table
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> I meant for upgrade situations where the existing install is working, and folk (i.e. me) want it to be easy to upgrade...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>> Lockley
>>> Sent: 30 August 2012 10:24
>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>>>
>>> the installer never used to put details into the ldap table, only ever went into the sitedetails table.
>>>
>>> Guessing the new auth code only uses the ldap table, and so the
>>> installer needs to either do both, or just one, depending on what
>>> the preference is
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>> How hard would it be to automate step 4?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>>>> Mitchell
>>>> Sent: 10 August 2012 09:40
>>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A quick update..
>>>>
>>>> This was the process that worked for upgrading an existing 1.7
>>>> install using LDAP for authentication to 1.8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. backup existing database and directory just in case
>>>>
>>>> 2. drop 1.8 code over top of existing code (for an upgrade you
>>>> don't need the setup folder)
>>>>
>>>> 3. visit the install to test the basics are working ok via guest access e.g.
>>>> create and test an LO
>>>>
>>>> 4. manually add the existing ldap details currently in the
>>>> sitedetails table to the ldap table in the database
>>>>
>>>> 5. change from guest to ldap in config.php by
>>>> commenting/un-commenting the relevant line
>>>>
>>>> 6. refresh index.php and test login via ldap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned previously not sure if there's supposed to be an
>>>> automated way of transferring ldap details from the sitedetails
>>>> table to the ldap table?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The other thing I'm not sure about is that the ldap table contains
>>>> ldap_knownname as a field that can't be empty and is created by
>>>> basic.sql in a new install and also exists in a 1.7 install yet I
>>>> can't find anywhere ldap_knownname is used in either 1.7 or 1.8 code.
>>>> Should this be removed from basic.sql?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
>>>> Julian Tenney
>>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:39
>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat
>>>>
>>>> Yep. But we need to make this easy, otherwise people are going to
>>>> get in a mess / screw up their installs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>>>> Mitchell
>>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 10:31
>>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Julian
>>>>
>>>> yes I can see it cropping up regularly once people start trying to
>>>> upgrade as opposed to a new install. But at the moment I don't have
>>>> the answers to my two questions and especially question 1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if perhaps 1.8 code should look in sitedetails as well as
>>>> the ldap table for existing installs or if upgrade.php isn't working as it should.
>>>> Not even sure if upgrade.php is meant to achieve this transfer of
>>>> ldap info from sitedetails to ldap? On a new install the values
>>>> added during install or via management.php go into the ldap table
>>>> but not sure what's supposed to happen for existing installs?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In 1.8 /library/xerte/authentication/ldap code the note says:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * For this to work, you'll need to have at least one entry in the XOT 'ldap'
>>>> table.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is supposed to happen for existing installs where the ldap
>>>> values are in sitedetails and also some field/column names differ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess these are questions for David or Pat or perhaps Thomas has
>>>> encountered/resolved this too?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
>>>> Julian Tenney
>>>> Sent: 09 August 2012 09:56
>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: upgrading and ldap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ron, would you mind documenting this process thoroughly, as you
>>>> find out how to do it, because this is going to come up a lot. If
>>>> we get one good, thorough set of instructions it will save us a load of pain.
>>>> Maybe there is an upgrade script or something we could write?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Julian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>>>> Mitchell
>>>> Sent: 08 August 2012 18:29
>>>> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] upgrading and ldap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I had a chance to test an upgrade to 1.8 of a previous 1.7 install
>>>> which uses ldap today. The previous and working install had the
>>>> ldap values in site details rather than the separate ldap table.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Upgrade process:
>>>>
>>>> drop code over top
>>>>
>>>> this then defaults to guest access but useful for checking the
>>>> basics work
>>>>
>>>> change from guest to ldap in config.php by commenting/un-commenting
>>>> the relevant line
>>>>
>>>> refresh index.php and try to login via ldap
>>>>
>>>> get error message LDAP servers not configured in DB
>>>>
>>>> visit management.php and check - ldap details displayed but not
>>>> saved to ldap table in db - clearly coming from site-details
>>>>
>>>> try running upgrade.php indicates nothing to upgrade
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. what's the process for transferring the ldap details from
>>>> site_details to ldap table for an existing install?
>>>>
>>>> In this case I can enter direct in the db but that's surely not the
>>>> intended method?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. In the ldap table what typically goes in ldap_knowname?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>>
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