[Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs

[Kemp Johnathan]

OK

The file runtime/language-config.xml has changed in that it is defining
file names now in a different format e.g. the old version had
file="english.xml" whilst the new version has file="en-gb.xml".

The solution to the missing language file error is to rename the language
file in xerte svn runtime/languages/ from english.xml to en-gb.xml

I have duplicated the english.xml file and renamed the copy to en-gb.xml.

I am not sure there is anything more I can do to move this forward at the
moment.

Tom if there is anything  you can think of let me know.

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 5 April 2012 11:28, Kemp Johnathan <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> I have just taken a copy of the current files from the xerte svn runtime
> folder and used Julian's setup.iss script (having modified the paths to
> match my setup) and used inno to make a test build. I then installed it on
> a pc that did not have xerte installed.
>
> I was able to create a new project and add connector pages to it.
>
> However the preview failed with the message "error language data failed to
> load".  (It is necessary on my version at present to manually copy across
> the pagetemplates.xwd and xml files to the new project, but when this is
> done the languages error persists)
>
> So I don't know why there should have been a problem with the connector
> pages not showing yesterday.
>
> However something has been changed somewhere with respect to languages.
>
> I don't get this on my development version so I will start swapping files
> out to try to find the file that is causing the problem.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 5 April 2012 11:06, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>wrote:
>
>> If Tom can build it, he can put it somewhere on xerte.org where people
>> can download and install it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rather than build a zip for xot, work on getting the trunk into  a state
>> that has everything in it for testing: all the models moved to the new
>> format for them, etc. Then we can push on with testing / comments and tease
>> everything out. I sense this is probably closer than I think, it just needs
>> finishing off now!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 05 April 2012 10:00
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
>>
>>
>>
>> OK
>>
>>
>>
>> I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder.
>>
>>
>>
>> What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ folder
>>
>>
>>
>> pagetemplate.rlo
>>
>> pagetemplate.xml
>>
>> pagetemplate.xwd
>>
>>
>>
>> and rename them to pages.rlo etc
>>
>>
>>
>> Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy all
>> three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder.
>>
>>
>>
>> At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no
>> connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be to
>> remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that makes no
>> sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build that
>> Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can find any
>> obvious difference between it and my development setup.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte
>> installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project with
>> connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that needs to be.
>> The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the project it failed with
>> an error message saying it could not find the language file. This might be
>> because associations in windows were not set up as the program was not
>> installed. Just a thought though. There have been recent discussions
>> regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or "en ?" (I can't remember what the
>> second bit was. Would these discussions have resulted in any changes that
>> need to be reflected in the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed inno
>> and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing with inno and
>> I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable option.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:
>>
>> Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the
>> file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file as
>> well.
>>
>> I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it
>> as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that part
>> out.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
>>
>> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation.
>>
>>
>>
>> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by the
>> failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the
>> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder.
>> Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file
>> associated with .rlo files.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth changing
>> the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any confusion
>> with pageTemplates.rlt?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is a
>> challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is that
>> the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the new
>> Connector pages option in the menu.
>>
>>
>>
>> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a PC
>> that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was possible
>> to create a new project and to add connector pages to that project. There
>> was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file could not be found,
>> but that might be because Xerte was not installed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence would
>> you be able to make available the installation build that he put together?
>> I would like to install it and then try to compare it with my installation
>> to see what might be missing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the associated
>> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not being copied into the
>> project folder, when a new project is created. This probably has always
>> been the case and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the
>> .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml
>> file from one project to another as I developed it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector menus.
>>
>>
>>
>> JK
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for people to
>> access it, or Fay can.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
>>
>>
>>
>> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the release
>> available while you are away?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you just need
>> to get things tidied up before a break!
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to have a great
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You might need
>> to change some paths.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
>>
>>
>>
>> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy of svn
>> runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu.
>>
>>
>>
>> To create a build I run run.bat?
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc?
>>
>>
>>
>> JK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It doesn’t. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte repo, so I have
>> no idea why this doesn’t work. Either you haven’t commited something or
>> you’re using a different set of files.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please test everything and when you think you’ve got a working build, you
>> can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have committed an updated
>> script. Tom can probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but
>> there’s no point in not doing the testing yourself first, otherwise
>> everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow
>> until 19th April, and realistically it’s more like beginning of May when
>> I will have any time again. You guys are going to have to work some of this
>> stuff out for yourselves if we’re ever going to get these releases done.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
>>
>>
>>
>> It should be looking like in the attached file.
>>
>>
>>
>> JK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Should I see connector pages in these menus?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
>>
>>
>>
>> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able to create a
>> new project that had access to connector pages.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get the running
>> version of the app once built. If that doesn’t work, it needs fixing, so
>> you can answer your own question about what will happen in the build: just
>> run xerte.exe amongst the repo files.
>>
>>
>>
>> If it doesn’t work, then someone needs to check in the files that makes
>> it work, cos I’ve got the latest files from the svn.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
>>
>>
>>
>> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an xwd and
>> its associated rlm file and then changed the menus value from "Text" to
>> "TextX"
>>
>> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages  project the new TextX
>> menu group was displayed with the new page in it.
>>
>>
>>
>> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not being
>> displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp
>> so that will not currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is
>> probably down to not having the right version of the files that deliver the
>> Xerte editor, exe. etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Try now,
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped!
>>
>>
>>
>> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte project.
>> There should be one blank page in the project.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why that might be
>> as to my knowledge what is offered is based on what is in the Wizard
>> folder, and correct references in the xwd menus property.
>>
>>
>>
>> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning of
>> Xerte.exe has not been updated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Whoops!
>>
>>
>>
>> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try to include
>> the latest bits from a test project :-(
>>
>>
>>
>> JK
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project: it doesn’t
>> start empty. There are no connector pages amongst the menus?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>>
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
>>
>>
>>
>> OK latest update.
>>
>>
>>
>> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt that are in
>> the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a
>> project and add new pages. One feature that will need attention is that
>> some of the pages are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in
>> Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the
>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in the XOT svn he
>> should be able to use these with XAMPP to build a test installation for
>> testing the new models, but it will not include currently the language
>> features.
>>
>>
>>
>> Re. Xerte
>>
>>
>>
>> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will be enough
>> to create a working install. With one big proviso - I don't know which
>> files Tom worked on to provide the support in the Xerte application for the
>> new "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime
>> then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It’s easy to install
>> toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can at least create,
>> edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to set it up,
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09
>>
>>
>> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List
>>
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
>>
>>
>>
>> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new model
>> files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a new folder
>> wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's
>> php scripts from the individual xwds.
>>
>>
>>
>> This should provide a working set of models to test.
>>
>>
>>
>> During developments several changes were made to XMLengine.swf,
>> wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the people responsible for these
>> changes have updated them in the XOT svn.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these will need
>> updating in the svn. If there have been changes to the xwds then a new
>> data.xwd file will need to be generated.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in order to
>> complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think this is an area in
>> which you will know best.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and xwd files and
>> thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re a few things I am not sure
>> about. I am posting this to the developer list so that the communication is
>> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new development on the
>> road.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.      With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you made
>> any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn pageWizards/models and
>> pageWizards/en folders? I know you mentioned earlier changing the way that
>> "question n of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any
>> changes to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the svn. If
>> there are changes where can I get the new version of the files as they need
>> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files.
>>
>> 2.      With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming that we
>> need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn "runtime" folder. This
>> "pages" folder will contain all the default files for a new "pages"
>> project. Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to
>> contain the php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files
>> that build the template.xwd file.
>>
>> 3.      With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that new
>> files are being added directly to the trunk and that I need to add the
>> model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted) to the folder
>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/
>>
>> 4.      In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in
>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which will contain the
>> individual xwd files.
>>
>> 5.      I will also add the new thumbnail images to the
>>  modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder.
>>
>> 6.      Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT server
>> and where will they be located?
>>
>> 7.      My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we need
>> to consider in order to be in a position where we can say to Ron that he
>> can download the XOT trunk and use that to build his test server?
>>
>> 8.      Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we review
>> the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get a Xerte build ready
>> for testing?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>>
>>
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