[Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Thu Apr 5 10:03:28 BST 2012
Ok, just rename the files, and I'll change the editor to copy all 3 files.
Op 5-4-2012 10:59, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
> OK
>
> I put everything that I think is needed in the xerte svn runtime folder.
>
> What I would like is to take the three files in the runtime/pages/ folder
>
> pagetemplate.rlo
> pagetemplate.xml
> pagetemplate.xwd
>
> and rename them to pages.rlo etc
>
> Then the swf that handles the creation of new projects needs to copy
> all three of those pages.rlo, xml, xwd to the new project folder.
>
> At present I can only guess why Julian might have been getting no
> connector pages showing up. The only way I could duplicate it would be
> to remove the connector page xwds from the wizards/en folder but that
> makes no sense.
>
> I will contact Fay to see if she can make available to me the build
> that Julian created so that I can try it out myself and see if I can
> find any obvious difference between it and my development setup.
>
> I have copied the runtime folder to a PC that does not have Xerte
> installed and then run xerte.exe and I was able to create a project
> with connector pages, so everything appears to be in the svn that
> needs to be. The only issue I hit was when I tried to preview the
> project it failed with an error message saying it could not find the
> language file. This might be because associations in windows were not
> set up as the program was not installed. Just a thought though. There
> have been recent discussions regarding whether to use "en" or "EN" or
> "en ?" (I can't remember what the second bit was. Would these
> discussions have resulted in any changes that need to be reflected in
> the naming of any files or folders e.g. wizards/en ?
>
> I am really relieved you can make a build Tom. I have just installed
> inno and had my sleeves rolled up. But you know what you are doing
> with inno and I am totally new to it so this has to be a more reliable
> option.
>
> Let me know if there is more I can do and meanwhile I will now email Fay.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 4 April 2012 20:31, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl
> <mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>> wrote:
>
> Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are
> the file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the
> rlo file as well.
>
> I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to
> host it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to
> figure that part out.
>
> Tom
>
> Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
>> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation.
>>
>> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was
>> caused by the failure of the routine that creates a new project
>> to copy the pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the
>> new project folder. Probably because up till now there had never
>> been an xml and xwd file associated with .rlo files.
>>
>> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth
>> changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to
>> avoid any confusion with pageTemplates.rlt?
>>
>> I think there must be something wrong with the build script.
>> Which is a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason
>> I say this is that the problem experienced was that new projects
>> did not display the new Connector pages option in the menu.
>>
>> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder
>> to a PC that does not have xerte installed and then run
>> Xerte,exe. It was possible to create a new project and to add
>> connector pages to that project. There was an issue on previewing
>> that the language.xml file could not be found, but that might be
>> because Xerte was not installed.
>>
>> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's
>> absence would you be able to make available the installation
>> build that he put together? I would like to install it and then
>> try to compare it with my installation to see what might be missing.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan
>> <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because
>> the associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files
>> were not being copied into the project folder, when a new
>> project is created. This probably has always been the case
>> and needs fixing in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the
>> .rlo work is the most recent stuff and I must have copied the
>> xwd and xml file from one project to another as I developed it.
>>
>> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the
>> connector menus.
>>
>> JK
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it
>> somewhere for people to access it, or Fay can.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte
>> test installs
>>
>> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make
>> the release available while you are away?
>>
>> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical
>> when you just need to get things tidied up before a break!
>>
>> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able
>> to have a great time.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder.
>> You might need to change some paths.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte
>> test installs
>>
>> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my
>> copy of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu.
>>
>> To create a build I run run.bat?
>>
>> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my
>> local pc?
>>
>> JK
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte
>> repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you
>> haven't commited something or you're using a different
>> set of files.
>>
>> Please test everything and when you think you've got a
>> working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno
>> setup. I have committed an updated script. Tom can
>> probably host it somewhere so people can try it, but
>> there's no point in not doing the testing yourself first,
>> otherwise everyone just wastes a lot of time. I am out of
>> the office from tomorrow until 19^th April, and
>> realistically it's more like beginning of May when I will
>> have any time again. You guys are going to have to work
>> some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're ever going
>> to get these releases done.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte
>> test installs
>>
>> It should be looking like in the attached file.
>>
>> JK
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Should I see connector pages in these menus?
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte
>> test installs
>>
>> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was
>> able to create a new project that had access to connector
>> pages.
>>
>> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will
>> get the running version of the app once built. If that
>> doesn't work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own
>> question about what will happen in the build: just run
>> xerte.exe amongst the repo files.
>>
>> If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the
>> files that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files
>> from the svn.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte
>> test installs
>>
>> I have just performed a test in which I copied and
>> retitled an xwd and its associated rlm file and then
>> changed the menus value from "Text" to "TextX"
>>
>> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project
>> the new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page
>> in it.
>>
>> So if you are still having issues with the Connector
>> pages not being displayed in a pages project (note I have
>> not yet updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not
>> currently offer Connector pages) then I think it is
>> probably down to not having the right version of the
>> files that deliver the Xerte editor, exe. etc.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan
>> <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Try now,
>>
>> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it
>> escaped!
>>
>> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new
>> Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project.
>>
>> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure
>> why that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is
>> based on what is in the Wizard folder, and correct
>> references in the xwd menus property.
>>
>> It might indicate that something that governs the
>> functioning of Xerte.exe has not been updated.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan
>> <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Whoops!
>>
>> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when
>> you try to include the latest bits from a test project :-(
>>
>> JK
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages
>> project: it doesn't start empty. There are no connector
>> pages amongst the menus?
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>>
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte
>> test installs
>>
>> OK latest update.
>>
>> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd,
>> Nottingham.rlt that are in the svn have been briefly
>> tested in XAMPP and it is possible to create a project
>> and add new pages. One feature that will need attention
>> is that some of the pages are missing icons, but I think
>> these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron were to take
>> the contents of the
>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are
>> in the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP
>> to build a test installation for testing the new models,
>> but it will not include currently the language features.
>>
>> Re. Xerte
>>
>> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think
>> will be enough to create a working install. With one big
>> proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to
>> provide the support in the Xerte application for the new
>> "pages" project type. If these changes have been added to
>> the runtime then we should be in business, if not then
>> they will need adding.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's
>> easy to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can
>> check you can at least create, edit, save an LO before
>> anyone else tries to set it up,
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09
>>
>>
>> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List
>>
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte
>> test installs
>>
>> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk
>> the new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd
>> files (in a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced
>> data.xwd with an equivalent built using Tom's php scripts
>> from the individual xwds.
>>
>> This should provide a working set of models to test.
>>
>> During developments several changes were made to
>> XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if
>> the people responsible for these changes have updated
>> them in the XOT svn.
>>
>> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then
>> these will need updating in the svn. If there have been
>> changes to the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to
>> be generated.
>>
>> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in
>> order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I
>> think this is an area in which you will know best.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan
>> <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model
>> and xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but
>> there a re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting
>> this to the developer list so that the communication is
>> shared with all parties who are helping to put this new
>> development on the road.
>>
>> 1.With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have
>> you made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte
>> svn pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know
>> you mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n
>> of m" was handled in some of the pages. I have not
>> noticed any changes to the xwd and rlm files in the
>> pageWizards section of the svn. If there are changes
>> where can I get the new version of the files as they need
>> adding to the xerte build files and the XOT build files.
>>
>> 2.With respect to a new xerte build am I right in
>> assuming that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the
>> xerte svn "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will
>> contain all the default files for a new "pages" project.
>> Also that the runtime folder will need new folders for
>> "php" to contain the php language, and "scripts" to
>> contain the php script files that build the template.xwd
>> file.
>>
>> 3.With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding
>> that new files are being added directly to the trunk and
>> that I need to add the model files (once the issue in 1.
>> is sorted) to the folder
>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/
>>
>> 4.In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder
>> in modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en
>> which will contain the individual xwd files.
>>
>> 5.I will also add the new thumbnail images to the
>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder.
>>
>> 6.Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT
>> server and where will they be located?
>>
>> 7.My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else
>> we need to consider in order to be in a position where we
>> can say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use
>> that to build his test server?
>>
>> 8.Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we
>> review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we
>> can get a Xerte build ready for testing?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
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