[Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Thu Apr 5 09:51:21 BST 2012
Yes they are in the editor.fla library
Op 5-4-2012 10:18, Julian Tenney schreef:
> are the icons for the pages menus in the editor.fla library? We need
> some connector icons for the wizard too. I can make them, or propose
> some, or you can select something from the famfamfam icon set, and
> either mix a few icons up to get what you want, or use something
> appropriate.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> [reijnders at tor.nl]
> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 20:31
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
>
> Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the
> file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file
> as well.
>
> I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host
> it as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure
> that part out.
>
> Tom
>
> Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
>> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation.
>>
>> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by
>> the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the
>> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project
>> folder. Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and
>> xwd file associated with .rlo files.
>>
>> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth
>> changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid
>> any confusion with pageTemplates.rlt?
>>
>> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is
>> a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this
>> is that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display
>> the new Connector pages option in the menu.
>>
>> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a
>> PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was
>> possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that
>> project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file
>> could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed.
>>
>> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence
>> would you be able to make available the installation build that he
>> put together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it
>> with my installation to see what might be missing.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the
>> associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not
>> being copied into the project folder, when a new project is
>> created. This probably has always been the case and needs fixing
>> in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo work is the most
>> recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file from one
>> project to another as I developed it.
>>
>> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the
>> connector menus.
>>
>> JK
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere
>> for people to access it, or Fay can.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>> Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>> installs
>>
>> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the
>> release available while you are away?
>>
>> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when
>> you just need to get things tidied up before a break!
>>
>> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to
>> have a great time.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You
>> might need to change some paths.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>> Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>> installs
>>
>> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy
>> of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu.
>>
>> To create a build I run run.bat?
>>
>> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc?
>>
>> JK
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte
>> repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you
>> haven't commited something or you're using a different set of
>> files.
>>
>> Please test everything and when you think you've got a
>> working build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup.
>> I have committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it
>> somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not
>> doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just
>> wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow
>> until 19^th April, and realistically it's more like beginning
>> of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to
>> have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're
>> ever going to get these releases done.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>> Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>> installs
>>
>> It should be looking like in the attached file.
>>
>> JK
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Should I see connector pages in these menus?
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>> Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>> installs
>>
>> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able
>> to create a new project that had access to connector pages.
>>
>> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get
>> the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't
>> work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question
>> about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe
>> amongst the repo files.
>>
>> If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files
>> that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn.
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>> Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>> installs
>>
>> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled
>> an xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus
>> value from "Text" to "TextX"
>>
>> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the
>> new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it.
>>
>> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages
>> not being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet
>> updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer
>> Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not
>> having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte
>> editor, exe. etc.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan
>> <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Try now,
>>
>> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped!
>>
>> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new
>> Xerte project. There should be one blank page in the project.
>>
>> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why
>> that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on
>> what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the
>> xwd menus property.
>>
>> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning
>> of Xerte.exe has not been updated.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan
>> <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Whoops!
>>
>> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you
>> try to include the latest bits from a test project :-(
>>
>> JK
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project:
>> it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst
>> the menus?
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>> Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45
>>
>>
>> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>>
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>> installs
>>
>> OK latest update.
>>
>> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt
>> that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it
>> is possible to create a project and add new pages. One
>> feature that will need attention is that some of the pages
>> are missing icons, but I think these have to be added in
>> Flash. So if Ron were to take the contents of the
>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in
>> the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to
>> build a test installation for testing the new models, but it
>> will not include currently the language features.
>>
>> Re. Xerte
>>
>> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think
>> will be enough to create a working install. With one big
>> proviso - I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide
>> the support in the Xerte application for the new "pages"
>> project type. If these changes have been added to the runtime
>> then we should be in business, if not then they will need adding.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy
>> to install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you
>> can at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else
>> tries to set it up,
>>
>> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
>> Of *Kemp Johnathan
>> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09
>>
>>
>> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List
>>
>> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
>> installs
>>
>> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the
>> new model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in
>> a new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an
>> equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual
>> xwds.
>>
>> This should provide a working set of models to test.
>>
>> During developments several changes were made to
>> XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the
>> people responsible for these changes have updated them in the
>> XOT svn.
>>
>> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these
>> will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to
>> the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated.
>>
>> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in
>> order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I
>> think this is an area in which you will know best.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
>>
>> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan
>> <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
>> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and
>> xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a
>> re a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the
>> developer list so that the communication is shared with all
>> parties who are helping to put this new development on the road.
>>
>> 1.With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you
>> made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn
>> pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you
>> mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was
>> handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes
>> to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the
>> svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of
>> the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and
>> the XOT build files.
>>
>> 2.With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming
>> that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn
>> "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the
>> default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the
>> runtime folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the
>> php language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files
>> that build the template.xwd file.
>>
>> 3.With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that
>> new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I
>> need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted)
>> to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/
>>
>> 4.In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in
>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which
>> will contain the individual xwd files.
>>
>> 5.I will also add the new thumbnail images to the
>> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder.
>>
>> 6.Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT
>> server and where will they be located?
>>
>> 7.My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we
>> need to consider in order to be in a position where we can
>> say to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to
>> build his test server?
>>
>> 8.Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we
>> review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can
>> get a Xerte build ready for testing?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Johnathan
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