[Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test installs
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Wed Apr 4 20:31:44 BST 2012
Yes I can fix that. Tell me what needs to be done (i.e. where are the
file that need copying) and yes, I can change the name of the rlo file
as well.
I can also build an 2.18 beta installer, and probably be able to host it
as well. I have used Inno before, so I should be able to figure that
part out.
Tom
Op 4-4-2012 19:06, Kemp Johnathan schreef:
> Latest on the attempts to build a xerte 2.18 test installation.
>
> We now know that the shrinking of Xerte to the task bar was caused by
> the failure of the routine that creates a new project to copy the
> pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files to the new project folder.
> Probably because up till now there had never been an xml and xwd file
> associated with .rlo files.
>
> Tom would you be able to fix this? At the same time is it worth
> changing the default project file name to pages.rlo so as to avoid any
> confusion with pageTemplates.rlt?
>
> I think there must be something wrong with the build script. Which is
> a challenge as I have never used Inno before. The reason I say this is
> that the problem experienced was that new projects did not display the
> new Connector pages option in the menu.
>
> However I have copied the whole of the xerte svn runtime folder to a
> PC that does not have xerte installed and then run Xerte,exe. It was
> possible to create a new project and to add connector pages to that
> project. There was an issue on previewing that the language.xml file
> could not be found, but that might be because Xerte was not installed.
>
> Fay I don't know if you are following this, but in Julian's absence
> would you be able to make available the installation build that he put
> together? I would like to install it and then try to compare it with
> my installation to see what might be missing.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 4 April 2012 17:01, Kemp Johnathan <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>
>
> The reason Xerte was shrinking to the task bar was because the
> associated pagetemplate.xml and pagetemplate.xwd files were not
> being copied into the project folder, when a new project is
> created. This probably has always been the case and needs fixing
> in a swf somewhere. I realise now that the .rlo work is the most
> recent stuff and I must have copied the xwd and xml file from one
> project to another as I developed it.
>
> I have yet to pin down the reason for the no show of the connector
> menus.
>
> JK
>
> On 4 April 2012 16:45, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> If you can make a build, I reckon Tom can put it somewhere for
> people to access it, or Fay can.
>
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:44
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
> installs
>
> If I can get this working is there anyone who can make the
> release available while you are away?
>
> I am sorry this has become so difficult, it's typical when you
> just need to get things tidied up before a break!
>
> I hope you are getting away for a few days and are able to
> have a great time.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 4 April 2012 16:36, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> Install inno setup and run setup.iss in the /inno folder. You
> might need to change some paths.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:36
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
> installs
>
> What is puzzling me is that when I run xerte.exe from my copy
> of svn runtime I do get Connector pages in the menu.
>
> To create a build I run run.bat?
>
> Can I run that on my copy of svn and do a build on my local pc?
>
> JK
>
> On 4 April 2012 16:29, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> It doesn't. I have an up to date set of files in my xerte
> repo, so I have no idea why this doesn't work. Either you
> haven't commited something or you're using a different set of
> files.
>
> Please test everything and when you think you've got a working
> build, you can build the setup.exe using inno setup. I have
> committed an updated script. Tom can probably host it
> somewhere so people can try it, but there's no point in not
> doing the testing yourself first, otherwise everyone just
> wastes a lot of time. I am out of the office from tomorrow
> until 19^th April, and realistically it's more like beginning
> of May when I will have any time again. You guys are going to
> have to work some of this stuff out for yourselves if we're
> ever going to get these releases done.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:26
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
> installs
>
> It should be looking like in the attached file.
>
> JK
>
> On 4 April 2012 16:19, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> Should I see connector pages in these menus?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
> Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 16:05
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
> installs
>
> I ran xerte.exe from my copy of the svn runtime and was able
> to create a new project that had access to connector pages.
>
> Let me know when you have a build and I'll give it a test.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 4 April 2012 16:00, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> If you run Xerte.exe in the checked out files, you will get
> the running version of the app once built. If that doesn't
> work, it needs fixing, so you can answer your own question
> about what will happen in the build: just run xerte.exe
> amongst the repo files.
>
> If it doesn't work, then someone needs to check in the files
> that makes it work, cos I've got the latest files from the svn.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] *On Behalf
> Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 15:50
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
> installs
>
> I have just performed a test in which I copied and retitled an
> xwd and its associated rlm file and then changed the menus
> value from "Text" to "TextX"
>
> When I then opened Xerte and created a new pages project the
> new TextX menu group was displayed with the new page in it.
>
> So if you are still having issues with the Connector pages not
> being displayed in a pages project (note I have not yet
> updated pageTemplates.xtp so that will not currently offer
> Connector pages) then I think it is probably down to not
> having the right version of the files that deliver the Xerte
> editor, exe. etc.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 4 April 2012 15:32, Kemp Johnathan
> <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>
> Try now,
>
> I thought I had edited that data out, not sure how it escaped!
>
> I have updated the .rlo file and tested the set in a new Xerte
> project. There should be one blank page in the project.
>
> If the connector pages still do not show I am not sure why
> that might be as to my knowledge what is offered is based on
> what is in the Wizard folder, and correct references in the
> xwd menus property.
>
> It might indicate that something that governs the functioning
> of Xerte.exe has not been updated.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 4 April 2012 15:19, Kemp Johnathan
> <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>
> Whoops!
>
> Back in a couple of minutes - that's what happens when you try
> to include the latest bits from a test project :-(
>
> JK
>
> On 4 April 2012 15:02, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> I made a build and installed it, created a new pages project:
> it doesn't start empty. There are no connector pages amongst
> the menus?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 14:45
>
>
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
> installs
>
> OK latest update.
>
> Re. XOT The files (models, thumbs, data.xwd, Nottingham.rlt
> that are in the svn have been briefly tested in XAMPP and it
> is possible to create a project and add new pages. One feature
> that will need attention is that some of the pages are missing
> icons, but I think these have to be added in Flash. So if Ron
> were to take the contents of the
> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham folder that are in
> the XOT svn he should be able to use these with XAMPP to build
> a test installation for testing the new models, but it will
> not include currently the language features.
>
> Re. Xerte
>
> I have added files to the xerte svn runtime which I think will
> be enough to create a working install. With one big proviso -
> I don't know which files Tom worked on to provide the support
> in the Xerte application for the new "pages" project type. If
> these changes have been added to the runtime then we should be
> in business, if not then they will need adding.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 4 April 2012 12:52, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> Have you done any provisional testing with XAMPP? It's easy to
> install toolkits on a local machine, and you can check you can
> at least create, edit, save an LO before anyone else tries to
> set it up,
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 04 April 2012 12:09
>
>
> *To:* Xerte Developers Discussion List
>
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Preparation of XOT and Xerte test
> installs
>
> I have now successfully committed to the XOT svn trunk the new
> model files, missing thumbnails, individual xwd files (in a
> new folder wizards/en/ ) and replaced data.xwd with an
> equivalent built using Tom's php scripts from the individual xwds.
>
> This should provide a working set of models to test.
>
> During developments several changes were made to
> XMLengine.swf, wizard.swf and editor.swf. I don't know if the
> people responsible for these changes have updated them in the
> XOT svn.
>
> Tom if you have made changes to any of the models then these
> will need updating in the svn. If there have been changes to
> the xwds then a new data.xwd file will need to be generated.
>
> I don't know what else will need adding to the XOT svn in
> order to complete the support for modularisation - Tom I think
> this is an area in which you will know best.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
>
> On 3 April 2012 12:03, Kemp Johnathan
> <johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com
> <mailto:johnathan.kemp at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>
> Ron is ready to set up a test server, I have some model and
> xwd files and thumbnails that are ready for use but there a re
> a few things I am not sure about. I am posting this to the
> developer list so that the communication is shared with all
> parties who are helping to put this new development on the road.
>
> 1.With respect to the new model and xwd files, Tom have you
> made any changes to copies of the files in the xerte svn
> pageWizards/models and pageWizards/en folders? I know you
> mentioned earlier changing the way that "question n of m" was
> handled in some of the pages. I have not noticed any changes
> to the xwd and rlm files in the pageWizards section of the
> svn. If there are changes where can I get the new version of
> the files as they need adding to the xerte build files and the
> XOT build files.
>
> 2.With respect to a new xerte build am I right in assuming
> that we need to add a new "pages" folder to the xerte svn
> "runtime" folder. This "pages" folder will contain all the
> default files for a new "pages" project. Also that the runtime
> folder will need new folders for "php" to contain the php
> language, and "scripts" to contain the php script files that
> build the template.xwd file.
>
> 3.With respect to the XOT build, It is my understanding that
> new files are being added directly to the trunk and that I
> need to add the model files (once the issue in 1. is sorted)
> to the folder modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/models/
>
> 4.In addition to point 3. I need to create a new folder in
> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/wizards/en which
> will contain the individual xwd files.
>
> 5.I will also add the new thumbnail images to the
> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/thumbs folder.
>
> 6.Tom what if any php scripts will need adding to the XOT
> server and where will they be located?
>
> 7.My knowledge of XOT is limited. Is there anything else we
> need to consider in order to be in a position where we can say
> to Ron that he can download the XOT trunk and use that to
> build his test server?
>
> 8.Once we have the XOT test server up and running can we
> review the situation with the Xerte runtime so that we can get
> a Xerte build ready for testing?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnathan
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