[Reading-hall-of-fame] Re: FW: PBS feature on "Dyslexia" and the "new approach" in Arkansas: A SUGGESTION FROM STEPHEN KRASHEN

Thu May 2 00:32:06 BST 2019

Hi all:

The ILA Literacy Research Panel did what I think is very balanced work in
this publication:

https://www.literacyworldwide.org/docs/default-source/where-we-stand/ila-dyslexia-research-advisory.pdf?sfvrsn=411ba18e_6

Best,

Peter Afflerbach

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 6:38 PM Brian Cambourne <bcambrn at uow.edu.au> wrote:

> Dear RHF Colleagues,
> Here’s a suggestion from Stephen Krashen which just arrived from another
> listserve I’m on.
> Is it feasible to explore how the RHF could might develop some internal
> structures and processes that would enable us as a group to use both
> traditional and social media in ways that will provide parents, teachers,
> journalists, administrators and others with alternate sources, ideas,
> theories, and practice?
>  Brian Cambourne
> *Stephen’s Message*
> *"Paul Thomas and I have both posted our responses on twitter, and have
> linked to PBS. *
> *While we are going thru the procedure of setting up a task force and
> trying to work with professional organizations, how about (1) retweeting
> our posts, with the PBS links and (2) posting your own. *
> *And yes, I have retweeted Paul's excellent post. *
> *Our posts will reach a few thousand people.  With more help/retweets we
> can get to maybe 100,000. *
> *If this doesn't happen, PBS will conclude that only a couple of weird
> professor-types object to their outrageous broadcast and Paul and I will be
> hung out to dry. *
> *This group has the responses. Let's make them public in any way we can." *
>
> *One more time, the words of UCLA coach John Wooden: Don't let what you
> can't do stop you from doing what you can do. *
> *PS: I welcome suggestions for places to publish our responses.  I have
> submitted mine to Substance.*
>
> On 2 May 2019, at 5:34 am, P Pearson <ppearson at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
> I am all for early and thoughtful approaches to wore level processes.
> What concerns me is the implicit view that if we do that and do it often
> and well, all of the language and comprehension issues will take care of
> themselves.
> David P
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 12:13 PM Rasinski, Tim <trasinsk at kent.edu> wrote:
>
>> In Ohio for the past 20 or so years every teacher wishing to be licensed
>> , P-12, is required to take a course on phonics.   So I don’t think
>> teachers in Ohio can claim that they are unaware of phonics
>> instruction.     I know of no district in Ohio that doesn’t  require that
>> it be taught in the primary grades.     Still, I don’t think our reading
>> scores have improved much, if at all, during this period.
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree phonics should be taught, but it is NOT the panacea for all
>> reading difficulties.     We all know that, why is it so difficult to
>> communicate this to the public?
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy Rasinski, Ph.D.
>>
>> Professor of Literacy Education
>>
>> Rebecca Tolle and Burton W. Gorman Chair
>>     in Educational Leadership
>>
>> Kent State University
>>
>>
>>
>> "Some days there won't be a song in your heart.  Sing anyway." --- Emory
>> Austin
>>
>>
>>
>> www.timrasinski.com
>>
>> @timrasinski1
>>
>>
>>
>> *Close Reading with Paired Texts* (Lori Oczkus and Tim Rasinski)
>>
>>
>> https://www.teachercreatedmaterials.com/search/?term=Close+Reading+with+Paired+Texts+Level+K
>>
>>
>>
>> *Daily Word Ladders* by Timothy Rasinski is available at:
>>
>>
>> https://www.scholastic.com/teachers/search-results/?search=1&filters=&text=daily%20word%20ladders
>>
>>
>>
>> *Greek and Latin Roots:  Keys to Building Vocabulary* is available at:
>>
>> http://timrasinski.com/products.html
>>
>>
>>
>> *The Fluent Reader* can be found at:
>>
>> *https://www.scholastic.com/teachers/search-results/?search=1&filters=&text=fluent%20reader
>> <https://www.scholastic.com/teachers/search-results/?search=1&filters=&text=fluent%20reader>*
>>
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>>
>> *From:* reading-hall-of-fame-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
>> reading-hall-of-fame-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Mckeown,
>> Margaret G
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:53 PM
>> *To:* P Pearson <ppearson at berkeley.edu>; Risko, Victoria J <
>> victoria.j.risko at vanderbilt.edu>
>> *Cc:* Reading-hall-of-fame at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> *Subject:* [Reading-hall-of-fame] Re: FW: PBS feature on "Dyslexia" and
>> the "new approach" in Arkansas
>>
>>
>>
>> I have heard from teachers and teacher educators that many teacher
>> candidates are taught virtually nothing about phonics instruction these
>> days – so for them it IS a brand new approach! I acknowledge that I did not
>> see the program, but from reading the transcript at the link, it seems to
>> me that parents and teachers are talking about the advantages that phonics
>> instruction can bring. I didn’t see evidence of ignoring experience with
>> books, but of touting an aspect of instruction that has not been present,
>> and has been needed in early instruction. I suspect the equating with
>> dyslexia is based on understanding that approaches for students with
>> dyslexia are more likely to focus on systematic phonics, and identifying
>> with that component.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think in any commentary we provide we need to be cognizant of the
>> complexities of issues around early reading, and that the people speaking
>> were not experts on reading, but were seeing in their children some
>> successes they had not seen before.
>>
>>
>>
>> Moddy McKeown
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *<reading-hall-of-fame-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> on behalf
>> of P Pearson <ppearson at berkeley.edu>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 10:33 AM
>> *To: *"Risko, Victoria J" <victoria.j.risko at vanderbilt.edu>
>> *Cc: *"Reading-hall-of-fame at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" <
>> Reading-hall-of-fame at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> *Subject: *[Reading-hall-of-fame] Re: FW: PBS feature on "Dyslexia" and
>> the "new approach" in Arkansas
>>
>>
>>
>> I am with you.  I feel like it is either 1995 with all the Reid Lyon
>> rhetoric or 2002 with all the NCLB rhetoric.  The misappropriation of
>> science;  The Reading Wars all over again.
>>
>>
>>
>> One thing we need to do is to determine whether there are any new data
>> used to prop up this version of "science" OR is it just rehashing what was
>> available in the NRP?
>>
>>
>>
>> Attaching a 2004 piece I did on the Reading Wars.  It addresses the issue
>> of the misuses of science.  I fear it is all to apt today.  See pp 224
>> onward especially for the politics of science part.
>>
>>
>>
>> pdp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:31 AM Risko, Victoria J <
>> victoria.j.risko at vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I had a few calls about the show, then watched it. Could we organize
>> a response?  I just reviewed the new Praxis test for initial certification
>> coming out in 2020 from ETS... you can look for info about it on line, so I
>> am not divulging confidential information.  Test was informed by the
>> "science of reading" not ILA standards for beginning teachers. Vicki
>>
>> Professor Emerita, Language, Literacy, Culture
>> Vanderbilt University
>> 2011-2012 President, International Literacy Association
>> http://www.readinghalloffame.org/victoria-risko-inducted-2011
>> <https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.readinghalloffame.org%2Fvictoria-risko-inducted-2011&data=02%7C01%7Cmckeown%40pitt.edu%7Cbc243085c54c4319410108d6ce5af2c1%7C9ef9f489e0a04eeb87cc3a526112fd0d%7C1%7C0%7C636923287995985004&sdata=db7d01CEacgCsWc9QdWgDurjZ13FzPmGXRAuEc24kvQ%3D&reserved=0>
>> Co-author, Professional Learning in Action: An inquiry approach for
>> teachers of literacy. (Risko & Vogt), 2016.  NY:Teachers College Press.
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: reading-hall-of-fame-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
>> reading-hall-of-fame-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of
>> Camille Blachowicz [CBlachowicz at nl.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:04 AM
>> To: Reading-hall-of-fame at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> Subject: [Reading-hall-of-fame] FW: PBS feature on "Dyslexia" and the
>> "new      approach" in Arkansas
>>
>> See the note below from Marge Lipson.  We both watched the PBS news item
>> about reading and were appalled.
>> PBS needs to receive lots of comments from informed folks.  They stress
>> how “scientific” this is.  Here is the link.  Marge asked me to forward to
>> the list.
>>
>>
>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fnewshour%2Fshow%2Fwhat-parents-of-dyslexic-children-are-teaching-schools-about-literacy&data=02%7C01%7Cvictoria.j.risko%40vanderbilt.edu%7Ca4ce681bb45440f616e508d6ce2d2e2a%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C1%7C636923090782333432&sdata=1zLDHYS4ZpTu%2BP%2FNovbPSEopftQh6Y0hiuBVjX7QNNI%3D&reserved=0
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>> We need to respond.
>>
>> Camille Blachowicz, Ph.D.
>> Co-Director,
>> The Reading Leadership Institute
>> Distinguished Research Professor Emerita
>> The National College of Education
>> National Louis University
>> 806  Colfax St.
>> Evanston, IL 60201
>> cblachowicz at nl.edu<mailto:cblachowicz at nl.edu>
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>> From: Marge Lipson gmail <mylipson at gmail.com<mailto:mylipson at gmail.com>>
>> Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 6:13 PM
>> To: Karen Wixson <kwixson at umich.edu<mailto:kwixson at umich.edu>>, Sheila
>> Valencia <valencia at uw.edu<mailto:valencia at uw.edu>>, Camille Blachowicz <
>> CBlachowicz at nl.edu<mailto:CBlachowicz at nl.edu>>, Barbara Ehren <
>> libby23 at aol.com<mailto:libby23 at aol.com>>, Peter Johnston <
>> johnstonnz at aol.com<mailto:johnstonnz at aol.com>>
>> Subject: PBS feature on "Dyslexia" and the "new approach" in Arkansas
>>
>> Dear Friends,
>> I am writing to each of you because I am beside myself.  I just watched
>> the PBS News Hour, which I do almost every evening.  I have come to view it
>> as a reliable source of thoughtful coverage on key topics.  Tonight they
>> fell far short.  They featured a "new approach" to reading that was meant
>> to help students.  It equated all reading problems with "dyslexia" and
>> showed teary parents who attested to how little schools had responded to
>> the needs of their children.  They argued that phonics was a brand new
>> approach to  teaching reading and highlighted legislative successes in many
>> (most) states.  Finally, they concluded that all children need phonics
>> first. (as opposed to experiences with books).  I felt like I was back in a
>> time 30 years ago).  Please take time to watch this segment for yourselves
>> and think about complaining to PBS -- the next thing I am going to do after
>> I send this off to you.
>>
>> If you can think of others who would thoughtfully address this matter,
>> please reach out to them.  Best, Marge
>> --
>> Marjorie Y. Lipson, Ph.D.
>> 802.310.8268
>>
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