[Reading-hall-of-fame] Re: Fwd: Claims about dyslexia in the DSM

[Judith Green]

Thank you all for this rich conversation.

I would like to share one additional thought that Paolo Freire shared with us when he engaged with our research community here.  He argued that if we take up the language and discourse (my language) of the negative conditions, we reinvent victimization for ourselves.  I think Brian and others raised issues about this in another way.  What is the conceptual language(s) and arguments about which we have empirical evidence to create an alternative discussion, not a response to the discourse currently out there.  

I went to youtube and found a concerted set of pieces on dyslexia with the search terms reading research.  I did not see video talks, powerpoint, or webcasts on perspectives that we would agree were empirically grounded.  I know that Vivian Vasquez has a set of podcasts on early literacy.  Perhaps we need to identify talks, lecture, and podcasts for a site on youtube that LRA and others have developed.  That would lay a foundation for a social media process.  I think a committee to collect those and review them would be a way to build an alternative set of resources.  This site could also be something to consider for the open access initiative that would bring the literature to a common space for those who seek to review that body of work.

Are there directions on what we can agree on.  For this need you might want to see the outcomes of a Spencer funded conference where 35 international qualitative researchers came together to address questions of how close are we to understanding the relationship between teaching and learning as well as discourse and action.  That conference led not to convergence but to the need to reconsider whatever is happening in classrooms further.  This is Candela, Rockwell & Coll (2002) in the European Educational Research Association.  I attended it and saw the depth of work but we could not converge or agree on how each contributed a particular perspective, rather than which was right.

Just some thoughts based on the richness of this process.  Perhaps a Spencer conference (multiple days) could be proposed along with an AERA volume and conference.  Just some thoughts to support bringing intergenerational knowledge together.  

I went back to graduate school when they took open education away from us and mandated behavioral objects when we had 4 diagnosis of reading and writing on every child in my school based on work that I did with colleagues as Miller - Unruh reading teachers (a team of 4). Perhaps it is time to come together to make transparent, not just visible what we have learned about teaching-learning processes in and across classes and levels of schooling.  

Just a thought.

Judith

> On Jun 2, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Hoffman, James V <jhoffman at austin.utexas.edu <mailto:jhoffman at austin.utexas.edu>> wrote:
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> Just to throw in another dimension of the difficulty (from Bad Science);  You cannot reason people out of a position they did not reason themselves into. 
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>> On Jun 1, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Gerald Duffy <duffy4edu at gmail.com <mailto:duffy4edu at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> I think there's at one answer to Brian's question.  They get more attention because their message is a simple, one-dimensional, easy to understand, and sn easy-to- implement answer to the pressing problem literacy.  In contrast, our message is complex, multi-dimensional, difficult for the general publeing developed.  ic to understand, and cannot be well implemented without a creative, adaptive teacher.  The fact that we're right doesn't trump the fact that their answer is simpler and easier to understand.  Sad as it is, humans prefer easy answers that absolve them of taking a more difficult path.  
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>> Gerry  
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>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 8:45 AM Scanlon, Donna M <dscanlon at albany.edu <mailto:dscanlon at albany.edu>> wrote:
>> Certainly part of this is the willingness to promote oneself and one’s beliefs/positions – look for Reid Lyon’s web presence.
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>> As someone down the chain has suggested….one of our issues may be that we are not adept at using media. One of the issues that the dyslexia work group has been focusing on is how to develop a web presence so that, when one searches ‘dyslexia’ something other than IDA/DD info comes up.  Not an area of expertise for me – but any guidance on that front would be more than welcome!
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>> Donna
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