[Reading-hall-of-fame] Re: Mind the 30 Million Word Gap!
Ken Goodman
kgoodman at u.arizona.edu
Sat Oct 25 14:58:56 BST 2014
At the height of the portrayal of poor minority kids as "culturally
deprived" I went to AERA and wrote my paper " Language and the
Ethnocentric researcher" using quotes from papers presented at that
conference. I found two opposed contentions. One is that these unfortunate
children lacked language stimuli the othere that they gew up in noisy
environments which is why they couldn;t learn.
Essentially what I concluded was that most research was comparing childen
to the reserachers own language and culture and finding that they fell
short. They were confusing difference with deficiency. They still are.
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On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Judith Green <judithlgreen at me.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> OK but I have, as Tom pointed out, hear this for many decades too. So, I
> raise the following question for discussion and consideration: What else
> counts, when exploring class differences as well as experiential
> differences.
>
> Some comments from personal experience as a reading teacher in the LA
> schools (in the 1960's) to formal research.
>
> When I was a reading teacher in LA City, we did a systematic analysis of
> students on 4 measures-- two comprehension, 1 phonemic awareness, and one
> phonetic analysis skills. We also tracked over 4 years at what level
> students who came to school looking bilingual hit a wall grammatically and
> in conceptual development. At second grade the grammatical structures and
> meanings became more complex and students started having trouble, not in
> decoding but in what words meant. This is an issue that Michael Agar would
> argue is languaculture. Culture is the surface of language and Culture is
> constructed through language. Culture is a conceptual system. This focus
> on # of words begs larger problems.
>
> Jenny Cook-Gumperz in her book on Maternal Socialization Styles test the
> hypothesis that Basil Bernstein argued in the 1970's that poor students
> speak in restricted codes and more advantaged students speak in elaborated
> codes. In a systematic study of mother-child interactions, she found that
> statistically there was as much variation within class as across classes.
> This challenges the approach that merely counts words. How were the words
> used? How did they function in interactions. This was a statistically
> based study. Functions of Language in the Classroom (1972), Cazden, John &
> Hymes explore some of these issues. This is a foundational text that
> deconstructs deficit models. This new report, without explore the actual
> processes and practices of language-in-use, not just word counts, seems to
> re-invent the deficit arguments again.
>
> Thoughts about how to count diversity and explore the relationships of
> class, economic status and other dimensions. Those issues as Tom shows
> here were discussed and explored in the 1960's and 1970's in ways that seem
> to be invisible today. Is it time to retriece the history of ideas as he
> demonstrates?
>
> Just wondering where thoughts are today,
> Judith Green
> > On Oct 24, 2014, at 3:49 PM, tsticht at znet.com wrote:
> >
> > 10/24/2014
> >
> > Mind the 30 Million Word Gap!
> >
> > Tom Sticht, International Consultant in Adult Education
> >
> > Things are going to slide, slide in all directions. Won’t be nothing,
> > Nothing you can measure anymore. –[From the song “The Future” by Leonard
> > Cohen, Canadian Poet, Musician, Singer]
> >
> > Americans love measurement. Sometimes, even when common sense reveals the
> > obvious truth of a proposition, it will be ignored until some form of
> > objective measurement is forthcoming to support the truth of the thought
> > expressed. Today, there is underway in the United States a large
> > initiative aimed at closing the gap between the reading achievement of
> > children from poorer homes and those from affluent homes. Called the “30
> > million word gap”, the initiative is based on the appearance of
> > measurements based on the common sense observation that reading ability
> is
> > based on children’s earlier developed oral language ability.
> >
> > An early expression of the common sense idea that reading ability is
> based
> > on the earlier acquired ability to listen to and speak the native oral
> > language is found in 1908 in Edmund Burke Huey’s classic book, “The
> > Psychology and Pedagogy of Reading.” In this book Huey wrote about the
> > relationship of oral to written language and said, “The child comes to
> his
> > first reader with his habits of spoken language fairly well formed, and
> > these habits grow more deeply set with every year. His meanings inhere in
> > this spoken language and belong but secondarily to the printed symbol.”
> >
> > Jumping ahead a few decades, colleagues and I surveyed large numbers of
> > studies that measured relationships among children’s and adult’s
> listening
> > and reading skills. The results were first reported in a 1974 book called
> > “Auding and Reading: A Developmental Model” and a decade later additional
> > studies were summarized by Sticht & James in a chapter on “Listening and
> > Reading” in the 1984 Handbook of Reading Research. In this research we
> > found that in the early grades of school children comprehended better by
> > listening to rather than by reading of materials. But as they progressed
> > through school their listening and reading abilities improved and the
> gap
> > between their listening and their reading ability closed until by around
> > the 6th to 8th grade levels they were able to comprehend equally well
> what
> > they listened to or read.
> >
> > A decade later, 1n 1995, another major research project, which measured
> the
> > relationships of oral language ability to written language achievement,
> lead
> > directly to the present “30 million word gap” initiatives. Betty Hart and
> > Todd Risley reported in their seminal book “Meaningful Differences in the
> > Everyday Experiences of Young American Children” (Paul H. Brookes
> > Publishing) their research which tracked the acquisition of oral
> vocabulary
> > of 42 children in the homes of welfare, working class, and professional
> > families for two and a half years. They estimated that from birth to 4
> > years of age welfare children would experience some 15 million words,
> > working class children around 30 million words, and children of
> > professional parents would experience some 45 million words. These
> > differences in words listened to lead to differences in oral vocabulary
> of
> > the children in these three groups and in turn these differences were
> > carried over into the school years resulting in similar differences in
> > reading achievement among these three groups.
> >
> > In the Hart & Risley study, the difference between the number of words
> heard
> > by the children of the welfare and the professional groups (45-15=30
> > million) formed the basis for the current “30 million word gap”
> > initiatives. In a June 25, 2014 White House Blog, Maya Shankar, Senior
> > Advisor for the Social and Behavioral Sciences at the White House Office
> of
> > Science and Technology Policy said, “Research shows that during the
> first
> > years of life, a poor child hears roughly 30 million fewer total words
> than
> > her more affluent peers.
> > This is what we call the “word gap,” and it can
> > lead to disparities not just in vocabulary size, but also in school
> > readiness, long-term educational and health outcomes, earnings, and
> family
> > stability even decades later
> > . That’s why today we are releasing a new
> > video message from President Obama focused on the importance of
> supporting
> > learning in our youngest children to help bridge the word gap and improve
> > their chances for later success in school and in life.”
> >
> >
> > Perhaps this new emphasis upon educating parents to develop their
> children’s
> > oral language skills will help children achieve higher education and
> > overcome the scourge of poverty in later life. Perhaps it will falsify
> > another common sense expectation:
> >
> >
> > “Everybody knows
> > the poor stay poor, the rich get rich. That’s how it goes.
> > Everybody knows. –[Leonard Cohen, “Everybody Knows”]
> >
> >
> > Mind the 30 Million Word Gap!
> >
> > tsticht at aznet.net
> >
> >
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