[Reading-hall-of-fame] RE: Reading-hall-of-fame Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1

Wed Oct 7 20:43:11 BST 2009

Hi friends.......

With colleagues (some former graduate students, Ken and I have been 
doing research on reading of whole texts using eye movement methodology 
with miscue analysis (EMMA).
It is clear that where the eye looks is different from what the reader 
says out loud and different from the written text.
Eric Paulson and Ann Freeman make that case in /Insight from the Eyes/ 
(Heinemann 2003).  Peter Duckett has shown that first graders also show 
these differences.
Miscue studies of deaf readers also show that the readers sign 
differently than what they mouth and what is in the written text as they 
read.
Our conclusions are that the reading process is simultaneous and complex 
and involves syntax, graphophonic information and the search for 
meaning.  The brain is in control not the vocal chords.
Yetta Goodman

Colin Harrison wrote:
> But Jay- this articulation could be coming AFTER word recognition.
>
> It doesn't answer the question of whether there has been a phonological
> or a direct visual route to word recognition.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Colin
>
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> Let me try a different track to the question of is an acoustic image of
> a
> word a prerequisite for comprehension when reading an alphabetic script
> such
> as English. The assumption has long been that when reading a logographic
> script such as Chinese, one goes directly from print to meaning. It is
> my
> understanding that Charles Perfetti found [and this to me was most
> exciting]
> that there is an intermediate acoustic stage even when reading with a
> Chinese script. A Chinese grad student here at Minnesota reported this
> during an exam. To continue, work done at U.C. Berkeley in the 60's or
> 70's
> in which sensors were put on skilled readers vocal cords found evidence
> of
> silent speech going on while reading, sort of like reading orally to
> oneself
> in one's head, sub luminal speech, as one read for meaning. Jay samuels
>
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>    1. Please point me in the right direction (Brian Cambourne)
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> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:03:41 +1100
> From: Brian Cambourne <brian_cambourne at uow.edu.au>
> Subject: [Reading-hall-of-fame] Please point me in the right direction
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> Colleagues,
> I've been  mulling over the following issue and need some help.
>
> At the core of some phonics advocates' theories and research is that   
> decoding is an essential pre-requisite of comprehension when reading  
> an alphabetic based text. I interpret this to imply one can only  
> comprehend ( "get to meaning") when reading an alphabetic text by  
> going through sound first.
>
> I've been looking for the definitive research or study which  
> conclusively "proves" that one can only get to meaning by first going  
> through sound when reading an alphabetically based writing system. So  
> far I've not found one, but perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places.
>
>   Can anyone in the RHF point me in  the direction of  any study or  
> studies which support the claim that decoding to sound is an  
> essentail or necessary pre-requisite for accessing the meaning of  
> the  an alphabetically based writing system such as English?  Many of  
> those in Australia I try to discuss this issue with become quite  
> defensive (and often aggressive) and argue that it's "just common  
> sense". I need your help in preparing a  paper on this issue
>
>    Brian Cambourne
>
>
>   Assoc. Prof. ( Dr) Brian Cambourne
> Principal Fellow
>   Faculty of Education
> University of Wollongong
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