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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>Why? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>As you know I already shared my opinion that the bullets page shouldn't be deprecated because at the the moment it's the only page type than offers an easy build effect. In a way it's better than the plain text page because at least it provides that option. But ideally we need simple animation anywhere.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Obviously deprecated page types will and should still work and be editable for existing projects just not show as a page type option in new projects. e.g. the latest develop version doesn't show the ability to add a Google Map page to a new project (unless switching to the flash editor) but does show the ability to edit that page type in existing projects. BTW the warning icon that shows is great!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><img width=213 height=116 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D05D73.8DE2D620"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>So short term ensuring that the bullet page still works should probably be an interim objective for this next release and then longer term perhaps have 'controllable building' on any page. Obviously ideally the new editor shouldn't break existing bullet pages but at the moment it does unless only making changes in source view. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Obviously even longer term we wouldn't really want to have to change each and every model so I'm wondering if there's just some js we can use and call from anywhere. e.g. I know this isn't something we can distribute but splittext looks very effective <a href="http://greensock.com/SplitText">http://greensock.com/SplitText</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Perhaps there's an existing jquery solution? There's a few fade and animate options.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>In fact their gsap tool might be the answer to your other animation question? <a href="http://greensock.com/gsap">http://greensock.com/gsap</a> They've got some great products we could potentially all use for projects but probably not distribute. <a href="http://greensock.com/products/">http://greensock.com/products/</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Ron<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>-----Original Message-----<br>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<br>Sent: 13 March 2015 08:37<br>To: Xerte discussion list<br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>If we deprecate it, it will still be an issue for existing projects.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: 12 March 2015 17:16<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'Xerte discussion list'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi John<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>overlapping messages again so my last reply will arrive before this one.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Yes it's definitely the editor changing the line breaks. Thinking out loud perhaps on the bullets page we can change the model to build on <p> tags or perhaps define a custom tag e.g. <build></build> and change the model so that it builds based on that tag?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>We had some recent discussion about whether the bullets page should be deprecated and if a custom tag is the best idea perhaps we could depregate it but enable building of lines of text on any page.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Here's a copy of the test I was doing in prep for a webinar next week. It's almost animation! ;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://training.mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=35</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Ron<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>[<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a>] On Behalf Of Smith, John<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: 12 March 2015 16:17<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: [Xerte] Re: quick question re bullets page with new editor<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Ron,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>The new editor should simply be building the data xml file and structuring it in the same way as the flash one did. If that is the case then it is the page model rendering the page that is at fault...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>What I suspect is most likely is that extra line breaks are being converted to <p> tags or similar html stuff is being inserted by the new WYSIWIG areas and the model itself can't cope. It's also similar to the way when you paste html for a table into the old flash editor like<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><table><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><tr><td>...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><tr><td>... etc<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>You get all the extra carriage returns as whitespace at the end... you need to put it in as<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><table><tr><td>...</td><td>...</td><td>...</td><td>...</td> etc...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>These problems with the models are probably going to be more common in the interim since the models are having to parse a lot more data (html tags, formatting etc) that they haven't been seeing in the past as the flash editor didn't insert them...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>If you find any good ones though then it would be great if you could log them as issues.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>John Smith | Learning Technologist<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Please address ALL support requests to <a href="mailto:hlsblt@gcu.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>hlsblt@gcu.ac.uk</span></a> where one of the School Learning Technologists will pick up the job. This will ensure that all jobs are completed as promptly as possible.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>[xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: 12 March 2015 16:03<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'Xerte discussion list'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: [Xerte] quick question re bullets page with new editor<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>a quick question re the bullets page with new editor - should that still work in terms of the build-effect e.g. show line 1 then line 3 then line 5 and so on and if so what's the trick?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I can see the timing adjustment having an effect but all the text is showing instantly and then it's building blank lines so it's almost back to front but perhaps I'm doing something wrong?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Ron<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. 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