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    Just an idea.<br>
    Can the pasting problem of Office be bypassed by using
    <ctrl><shift><v> ?<br>
    <br>
    I've also lost pages but this was due to a time-out problem where
    the session wasn't valid anymore.<br>
    <br>
    Best regards,<br>
    <br>
        John Bijnens<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/05/2013 12:48, Julian Tenney
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This
            is always bad news. Happily it doesn’t seem to be happening
            often. From time to time it happens here as well, and almost
            every time it is because people are pasting in text from
            MSOffice or elsewhere that carries unseen formatting that
            breaks the XML, as much as we try and protect it. There is
            better error handling code in there now than the early days
            so if you upgrade it may improve – of course, if it’s a rare
            occurrence, it’s hard to tell.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We
            do test to see if the xml is well formed, and prevent it
            being saved if it isn’t, but I think from time to time
            things do slip though, and when this happens no one can tell
            us exactly what they were doing when it broke. We hear
            ‘well, I, er, dunno, but it was working one minute, and not
            the next… pardon? Paste form word, no, I don’t think so, er,
            shouldn’t I do that then, oh, I didn’t know that…’ etc, so
            it’s hard to replicate things and prevent them happening
            again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
            it happens, the first thing to look at is whether data and
            preview.xml files are the same. If they are, there’s
            probably not much you can do about it, but try and see if
            the xml file contains more info than they are seeing in the
            editor. If so, some of it might be able to be rescued. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
            they are different, you can restore to the last good
            published place. If you can catch a real example I’d love to
            see it, because this is about the worst thing that can
            happen, and it shouldn’t be possible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Loughlin, Colin<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 09 May 2013 10:06<br>
                <b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] xot data disappearing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi
            – apologies if this has already been covered, but I have now
            had several incidents of data disappearing from Xerte
            objects and wondered if this was a known problem, and/or
            what the solutions might be.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
            happens infrequently (4/5 times over the last two versions
            that we have had installed during the last couple of years),
            we’re currently on version 1.7.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
            think what happens is that data gets corrupted/lost during
            the saving process. For example the most recent case the LO
            was about 40 pages and was saved normally, but when we went
            to open it again it contained only 29 pages.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#003366">Colin
              Loughlin <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#244061">CMALT
            FHEA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#244061">Kingston
            University</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#244061"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
          This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs
          Email<br>
          Security System.<o:p></o:p></p>
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