<html><body style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <br />Session time out is a problem, as well as the corruption of the XML<br /><br />Might a temp copy make sense sent via a setTimeout? or something?<br /><br />This could be deleted when the file was next saved?<br /><blockquote><br />----- Original Message -----<br /><div style="width:100%;background:rgb(228,228,228);"><div style="font-weight:bold;">From:</div> JohnBijnens1@gmail.com "Xerte discussion list" <xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk></div><br /><div style="font-weight:bold;">To:</div><xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk><br /><div style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</div><br /><div style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</div>Thu, 09 May 2013 14:41:31 +0200<br /><div style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</div>[Xerte] Re: xot data disappearing<br /><br /><br />
Just an idea.<br />
Can the pasting problem of Office be bypassed by using
<ctrl><shift><v> ?<br /><br />
I've also lost pages but this was due to a time-out problem where
the session wasn't valid anymore.<br /><br />
Best regards,<br /><br />
John Bijnens<br /><br /><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/05/2013 12:48, Julian Tenney
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">Hi,</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">This
is always bad news. Happily it doesn’t seem to be happening
often. From time to time it happens here as well, and almost
every time it is because people are pasting in text from
MSOffice or elsewhere that carries unseen formatting that
breaks the XML, as much as we try and protect it. There is
better error handling code in there now than the early days
so if you upgrade it may improve – of course, if it’s a rare
occurrence, it’s hard to tell.</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">We
do test to see if the xml is well formed, and prevent it
being saved if it isn’t, but I think from time to time
things do slip though, and when this happens no one can tell
us exactly what they were doing when it broke. We hear
‘well, I, er, dunno, but it was working one minute, and not
the next… pardon? Paste form word, no, I don’t think so, er,
shouldn’t I do that then, oh, I didn’t know that…’ etc, so
it’s hard to replicate things and prevent them happening
again.</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">If
it happens, the first thing to look at is whether data and
preview.xml files are the same. If they are, there’s
probably not much you can do about it, but try and see if
the xml file contains more info than they are seeing in the
editor. If so, some of it might be able to be rescued. </span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">If
they are different, you can restore to the last good
published place. If you can catch a real example I’d love to
see it, because this is about the worst thing that can
happen, and it shouldn’t be possible.</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">Julian</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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Behalf Of </b>Loughlin, Colin<br /><b>Sent:</b> 09 May 2013 10:06<br /><b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br /><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] xot data disappearing</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">Hi
– apologies if this has already been covered, but I have now
had several incidents of data disappearing from Xerte
objects and wondered if this was a known problem, and/or
what the solutions might be.</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">It
happens infrequently (4/5 times over the last two versions
that we have had installed during the last couple of years),
we’re currently on version 1.7.</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">I
think what happens is that data gets corrupted/lost during
the saving process. For example the most recent case the LO
was about 40 pages and was saved normally, but when we went
to open it again it contained only 29 pages.</span></p><p></p><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">Thanks,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#003366;">Colin
Loughlin </span></b></p><p></p><p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#244061;">CMALT
FHEA</span></p><p></p><p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#244061;">Kingston
University</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#244061;"></span></p><p></p><p></p>
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