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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Alistair<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>just a thought and I'm not sure how it would affect the accessibility etc but as you know with the HTML 5 player you can embed iframes wherever required so for instance to resolve the displaying of code on nested pages you could put that code in an external html page, upload via media and quota and embed that link via an iframe. I haven't tested it but in theory it should work because the xml will only have the iframe code and link not the code to display. But as I say perhaps that would reduce the accessibility?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>HTH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alistair McNaught<br><b>Sent:</b> 03 May 2013 13:34<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Query re formatting?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This is a very specialised bit of publisher training so really we’re just looking to understand the issues so we can work around it – what has been shared so far has been very helpful and should help us meet our objective in the short term.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Many thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Alistair </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br><b>Sent:</b> 03 May 2013 13:16<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Query re formatting?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I do agree with Julian that we shouldn't put too much effort in making this an HTML editor, because whatever we accomplish it will still be awkward. The real solution is creating an HTML 5 editor...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Op 3-5-2013 14:01, Julian Tenney schreef:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>></span> Any advice would be welcome. Obviously it’s brilliant to now have tables working in XOT but it would be nice if they weren’t so stuffed with BRs. And is there a way to understand < behaviour or should we be using latex instead?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You need to use some caution - it was never intended as an HTML editor. In fact it was intended to NOT be an HTML editor, that was the point. Because of the way Flash (aka the wizard, not the engine) handles XML it is not easy to escape it properly – I have tried. Others are welcome to try again…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alistair McNaught<br><b>Sent:</b> 03 May 2013 10:04<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Query re formatting?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>A colleague and I have been working on creating a training module for publishers on accessibility metadata. The metadata is in XML format and we are trying to embed it in XOT pages to illustrate different metadata and how it describes different parts of a book cover.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>However it is proving a bit unpredictable in the code. Can anyone advise us on the following?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- how does text containing the < character to work? It seems completely capricious, sometimes switching between displaying the < and trying to interpret it as markup even after you've got it all correct. In two editing sessions, I was unable to form an understanding of what the editor was doing to my text<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- the application appears to insert a predictable (but not controllable) number of blank lines (as <br>) above each <table> inserted in a text box. Can this be controlled?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Any advice would be welcome. Obviously it’s brilliant to now have tables working in XOT but it would be nice if they weren’t so stuffed with BRs. 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