<div>Users make programming fun!<br></div><div>JK</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 31 August 2012 15:38, Dave Burnett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:d_b_burnett@hotmail.com" target="_blank">d_b_burnett@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><br></div><div><!-- users are evil --></div><div><br></div><div><div class="im"><hr>From: <a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
</div>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:36:27 +0100<div class="im"><br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop<br><br></div><div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Just trying to enable success.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Parenting might call for different design principles.</span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 31 August 2012 15:26<br><b>To:</b> Xerte list</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop</div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p style="margin-left:36.0pt">
</p><div><div><p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">> </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">you are saying ‘yes you can, sure go ahead’ rather than ‘no. you can’t do that’.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<div><p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Liberal parent or what. </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From: <a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:23:05 +0100<br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop</span></p><div><p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It would make more sense to turn a normal project into a pages project f the user tries to make use of the templates, then you are saying ‘yes you can, sure go ahead’ rather than ‘no. you can’t do that’.</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 31 August 2012 15:22<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop</span></p></div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I have just reloaded a project created by using File / New which consists only of a .rlo file.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">With this project open the Xerte interface offers me the full list of pages and allows me to add a page to my project just as it would if it was a pages project.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">This is going to cause confusion because as Dave has discovered this is not going to work and people will not understand why.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">It would make sense to only offer the list of pages to the author if they are in a pages project.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Kind regards</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Johnathan</span></p>
</div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">On 31 August 2012 15:14, Dave Burnett <<a href="mailto:d_b_burnett@hotmail.com" target="_blank">d_b_burnett@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<div><div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">For my own purposes, I can get it to run as is, so I am agnostic on the overall issue.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">For regular distribution though, I don't know if you can count on folks reading/understanding the Help files.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The path I took was available and didn't seem illogical, so I took it.</span></p></div><div>
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</span></div></div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From: <a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:01:34 +0100</span></p><div><div><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop</span></p><div><p style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Well, here we have our probably most experienced (and forgiving) user falling flat at the first fence and that tells me something is wrong.</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 31 August 2012 15:00<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop</span></p></div></div><p style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I suppose so..., Johnathan?</span></p><div><p style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Op 31-8-2012 15:48, Julian Tenney schreef:</span></p>
</div><blockquote style="margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Yes, with the scripts in the entry frame and other stuff needed. If someone tried to add a page, and those scripts weren’t there, they could be added?</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:144.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 31 August 2012 14:48<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop</span></p></div></div><p style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Don't know exactly what you mean by 'pages stuff', but yes it sets up a special project.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Oh, that’s right, you need to instantiate the project as a project that uses pages.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Could it be that if this happens, the pages stuff is added to the project automagically?</span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 31 August 2012 14:41<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Creating new template in desktop</span></p></div></div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>1. Pages -> Create new Page Project<br>2. Choose folder, and open new project<br>
<br>Try the rest. (I had no time to check the hotspots page, but a text page worked fine.)</span></p><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Op 31-8-2012 15:09, Julian Tenney schreef:</span></p>
</div><blockquote style="margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Same here.</span></p><p style="margin-left:180.0pt">
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 31 August 2012 14:07<br><b>To:</b> Xerte list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Creating new template in desktop</span></p></div></div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">2.18 as d/l'ed this a.m.</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">File New</span></p></div><div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Save</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Pages > Interactivity >drag/droplabelling</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Open the Wizard? > No</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">dragdroplabel page added as 2nd page (1st page is Untitled and has nothing attached)</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Preview (2 blank pages)</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Double click page and start wizard</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Select image</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Add 3 hotspots</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Preview (2 blank pages)</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">debug(pageIcon.templateData); // undefined</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:41:13 +0100<br>From: <a href="mailto:johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com" target="_blank">johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question</span></p><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I am still using the beta.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I will down load it and take a look.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Kind regards</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Johnathan</span></p>
</div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">On 30 August 2012 21:37, Dave Burnett <<a href="mailto:d_b_burnett@hotmail.com" target="_blank">d_b_burnett@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">>The new Xerte 2.18 </span></p><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">That's why it's problematic.</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">That's the setup that I just downloaded this a.m.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">According to what I was told yesterday, it should be 2.18</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt">
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</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:30:50 +0100</span></p><div><div><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:180.0pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>From: <a href="mailto:johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com" target="_blank">johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question</span></p><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Hello Dave,</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Sorry for the confusion.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The Page Wizards were never part of the official Xerte download. They were produced as a separate zip file that when unzipped created a set of folders, each of which contained several .xcp files. Each single .xcp file defined the xwd, rlm and xml file for a page. It is this separate add on to Xerte that has been retired.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The new Xerte 2.18 includes for each page type a separate xwd that defines the form, and an rlm file that defines the model for each page. Look in </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Xerte \ pages \ models</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> \ wizards \ en-GB </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">to find them.</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Each of the pages in the original page wizards download had its own xml file that was already populated with data. Its data was enclosed in </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><learningObject> </learningObject> tags</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">so the top level node that existed when Xerte converted the xml to an object was "learningObject"</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">All the pages in Xerte 2.18 generate xml with their data enclosed in <pageWizard> tags so the top level node in the object is "pageWizard"</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">It really doesn't matter what the top level node is called as long as you are consistent. I think when we moved to implement the individual page templates in Xerte 2.18 I changed from using "learningObject" as that is what is used in pageTemplates xml files as a wrapper to contain the data for a whole Xerte project and not just for one page.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The important thing to realise is that in a pageTemplates (project wide template ) project or a XOT project there is only a single xml file that contains the data for all of the pages. Whereas in a Xerte pages project each page has its own xml data file (apologies if I am teaching you to suck eggs :-)</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Since the intention is to create a model file that can be used in either Xerte or XOT this raises a problem since the structure of the xml file differs between the single page for Xerte individual page and the one file containing the data for all the pages in a XOT or pageTemplates type of project.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The opening section of the rlm file</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip();</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ <br>
// Page Wizard<br>pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject();<br><span style="background:yellow">pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0];</span><br>} else {<br>// Toolkits<br>myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]);<br>
pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject();<br><br>}</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">resolves this and the line highlighted in yellow effectively strips out the reference to pageWizard so that the rest of the model file can refer to pageIcon.templateData and thus be identical for both environments.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The original Page Wizard files were only designed to work in the desktop Xerte individual page environment so this was not an issue at the time.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">What is now significant is that Tom has written some php code that will parse through all the xwd files in a xerte install to generate a new template.xwd file that can be used in XOT. Remember XOT does not use individual xwd files but instead uses a single file containing the forms for all the pages. I think this parser looks for the <wizard> and <pageWizard> tags that are contained in the individual xwd files to help identify the relevant sections to include when building the template.xwd file.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">You can develop new pages by creating a project using File / New</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">However if you do so and then try using any of the existing model files you will run into a number of issues such as missing swf files, rootIcon.projMode will not be defined and some supporting code that is shared by several of the models e.g. narration support will not exist in your project.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Alternatively if you start your project using Pages / Create New Page Project then all the items needed to support the models will be included in your project. So it kind of makes sense to use the Page Project option and then to create a new page by starting from an existing one. If you pick a page that has some of the features you want in your page you can add extra fields to the xwd form run the form and examine the xml file to see that it is being populated correctly. Then you can modify the page's structure to consume the new data.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">By keeping to the standard structures used in the new pages you will ensure that your new pages can be transferred to XOT if you wish to do that.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I hope that is a bit clearer.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">KInd regards</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Johnathan</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">On 30 August 2012 18:59, Dave Burnett <<a href="mailto:d_b_burnett@hotmail.com" target="_blank">d_b_burnett@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<div><div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Thanks Johnathan.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I just opened a new file in Xerte and then inserted the drag/drop .rlm I am trying to alter.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">so I added the templateData path in the LO and then used just </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> pageIcon.templateData = extXML.toObject();</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.learningObject[0];</span></p></div></div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>to get the data loaded.</span></p><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Why am I using learningObject and you are using pageWizard</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I thought you had deprecated pageWizard.</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<div><div style="margin-left:36.0pt"><div style="margin-left:36.0pt"><div style="margin-left:36.0pt"><div style="margin-left:36.0pt"><div style="margin-left:36.0pt"><div align="center" style="margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:56 +0100<br>
From: <a href="mailto:johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com" target="_blank">johnathan.kemp@ntlworld.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Creating new template question</span></p>
<div><div><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">You are using an old model file probably from a page wizard.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The new model files use</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">pageIcon = icon.parentNode.clip();<br>
<br>if (rootIcon.projMode == "dev"){ <br>// Page Wizard<br>pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject();<br>pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0];<br>} else {<br>// Toolkits<br>myXML = new XML(extXML.firstChild.childNodes[rootIcon.getPageIndex() - pgOffset]);<br>
pageIcon.templateData = myXML.toObject();<br><br>}</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">A setup script off the entryFrame of a "pages" type project sets </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">rootIcon.projMode = "dev";</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">This ensures the model file behaves correctly for a desktop Xerte project. This value is not set in XOT projects which enables the same model file to be used in both Xerte and XOT. The idea being that people will be able to develop new page types in Xerte and then transfer them to a XOT environment.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Refer back to my other reply for an idea of how I approach the creation of a new page. Even if you don't follow the same steps it should guide you as to what else you need to do.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Kind regards</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Johnathan</span></p>
</div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">On 30 August 2012 15:42, Dave Burnett <<a href="mailto:d_b_burnett@hotmail.com" target="_blank">d_b_burnett@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<div><div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I'm playing with the new 2.18 version (Thanks to Johnathan and all!).</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I've made a new template and can load it onto the flowline.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Now I want to alter the underlying model and to do that I need to get test data into it.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">So I open a new file and insert the .rlm from the models file.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">In the first script icon of the .rlm we have:</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">if (extXML == undefined){</span></p>
</div><div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> // Page Wizard</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.extXML.toObject();</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> pageIcon.templateData = pageIcon.templateData.pageWizard[0];</span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Am I missing something, e.g. if extXML is undefined, won't pageIcon.extXML also be undefined?</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">What I need to do obviously is get data into pageIcon.templateData in order to get the model to function.</span></p>
</div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-left:180.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Cheers,</span></p>
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<pre style="margin-left:180.0pt">-- </pre><pre style="margin-left:180.0pt">--</pre><pre style="margin-left:180.0pt"> </pre><pre style="margin-left:180.0pt">Tom Reijnders</pre><pre style="margin-left:180.0pt">TOR Informatica</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:180.0pt">Chopinlaan 27</pre><pre style="margin-left:180.0pt">5242HM Rosmalen</pre><pre style="margin-left:180.0pt"> </pre><pre style="margin-left:180.0pt">Tel: 073 5226191</pre><pre style="margin-left:180.0pt">
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-- </pre><pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">--</pre><pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre><pre style="margin-left:144.0pt"> </pre><pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Tom Reijnders</pre><pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">TOR Informatica</pre>
<pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Chopinlaan 27</pre><pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">5242HM Rosmalen</pre><pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Tel: 073 5226191</pre><pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">Fax: 073 5226196</pre><pre style="margin-left:144.0pt">
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-- </pre><pre style="margin-left:108.0pt">--</pre><pre style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </pre><pre style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </pre><pre style="margin-left:108.0pt">Tom Reijnders</pre><pre style="margin-left:108.0pt">TOR Informatica</pre>
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