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You will be able to 'import' a page into a XOT template. I have all
the code, but I can't seem to connect it to a button in the
management page of XOT. Will have to look into that, or perhaps Pat
can help me (off line) if he has the time. Not sure whether we
should support deletion though, for all the reasons Ron mentioned.
So currently it is not in my plans.<br>
<br>
Op 9-2-2012 9:55, Julian Tenney schreef:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
think, that once Tom has finished his xwd builder stuff, it
won’t matter because folk will be able to more easily be
able to create an xwd with whatever models they want in it.
This is exactly why you guys wanted to do that, right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 February 2012 21:56<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer
pagetype in XOT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ok
first a bit of background... <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What
I called the compareAnswer page was an extension of the
stimulating question page and existed and was shared long
before the model answer even existed e.g. pre Sept 09
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230">http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/230</a> (Note: The downloads there
are well out of date now)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
proved really popular and has been in use on the sandpit and
other installations since that time. It was simply added to
the page templates xwd and a compareAnswer.rlm model file
added to the models directory. No changes to the .rlt
required.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Following
feedback I also added a compare answer results page which
collated and displayed all the instructions, questions and
responses wherever that page was added - typically at the
end of the LO.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As
has been discussed a popular feature of the compare answer
page was that a user could go back and forth through each
page and until they closed the LO altogether their responses
are remembered on each page. Also when they click the
feedback button the instruction, question and their answer
for that page is copied to the clipboard. On the separate
compare answer results page all of the results are copied to
the clipboard and there was also an email button that could
be improved or replaced with a print button.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In
response to today's thread...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
have added the same functionality to the modelAnswer.rlm
attached and tested that this all works. Let me know if you
want me to commit this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
also contains the code needed in preparation for adding a
modelAnswerResults page but I haven't done that yet but
happy to do so if it will be included?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My
dilemma with this now though is what to do about all the
existing LO's that have used my compareAnswer page. I wonder
if there's a way we could tweak the engine or wizard or
something to show model answer and when its developed model
answer results but still enable editing of previous LO's
using compareAnswer e.g. some kind of conditional in terms
of what rlm to load if the existing data.xml contains
compare answer but any new LO's only see the model answer
option? Hope that makes sense ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 February 2012 15:53<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Query about model answer
pagetype in XOT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">If someone can
supply me with the model files (.rlm) for these pages and a
templates.xwd file that contains their menu code then I
could take a look at including them in the individual page
templates if that is acceptable to the Xerte team.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">If the pages
require external support e.g. modifications to the
templates.rlt file or additional javascript in the html that
gets published then this would probably mean I would leave
them out for now with a view to their inclusion being
reviewed once Xerte 2.18 is released.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Johnathan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On 8 February
2012 15:17, Alistair McNaught <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Alistair.McNaught@heacademy.ac.uk">Alistair.McNaught@heacademy.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi
Johnathan<br>
The features of Ron's model answer pages that were
attractive included the copy of the input AND model
answer text to the clipboard ad well as the
harvesting of all such data from all such slides
into a summary page.<br>
<br>
If we could mainstream that there would be some nice
value added.<br>
<br>
A<br>
<br>
Sent from my Windows Phone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Kemp
Johnathan</span><br>
<b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Sent:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">08/02/2012
13:02</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">To:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Xerte
discussion list</span><br>
<b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Subject:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">[Xerte]
Re: Query about model answer pagetype in XOT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There’s
a ‘model answer’ in the new tempales..?</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
am seeking to include every page from the
current page templates except Xerte as there is
little point in this existing as an individual
page template, I figured this could be included
in the default template.xwd before other pages
were added. The menu page is also an issue as it
is different from the other pages in the way it
functions, but I will take a look at it once I
have finished the rest of the pages.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So
yes there will be a model answer page. I am
working alphabetically through the model files
by title and am currently up to Image Viewer so
any ideas about changes to the model answer page
or the inclusion of other versions of a model
answer page would be quite timely.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Are
Ron's model answer pages self contained? i.e. is
everything that makes them work contained in the
rlm file? Or do they need modifications to the
template.rlt file, or other supporting files?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind
regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Johnathan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On 8
February 2012 12:31, Julian Tenney <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk"
target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There’s
a ‘model answer’ in the new tempales..?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 February 2012 12:22</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:36.0pt"><br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Query about
model answer pagetype in XOT<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
enough people request it Julian might just
be persuaded to include my two compare
answer page types! ;-) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4"
target="_blank">http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/moodle/xertetoolkits/play_4</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk"
target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 08 February 2012 11:02<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Query
about model answer pagetype in XOT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We
can’t create / save a file in Word – the
user can cut and paste at the minute.
Potentially could do a nicer job of
building up the text to cut / paste, or
send it to server for some processing /
turn it into a doc of some sort on the
server.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:72.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 08 February 2012 10:56<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Query about
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<p style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt">Hi<br>
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With the Model Answer pagetype (type in
some text in a box) would it be possible
to have a function which allows the user
to save the text created to a word file
and also allows the editor of the page to
choose whether the page should be cleared
or not when the user moves forward or
back through the xerte course pages?<br>
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Thanks in advance,<br>
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Andy<br>
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Centre for Applied Linguistics<br>
Room 0.39 (Social Sciences building)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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