<div><font color="#3366ff">You picked the week I was away in Wales to ask this one, sorry for the delay in replying.</font><br></div><div><br></div><div>- When I’m done with the wizard, and when its plugged its code into the desktop flowline…is there a way to edit that page using the wizard interface after that? Or is it a one time thing – you build your wizard once and it gets plugged into the flowline….any changes require building it from scratch again? I tried opening the folder with the related files to edit the wizard but that didn’t work.<br>
<br></div><div><font color="#3366ff">When you use a Page Wizard the 3 files .rlm (Model), .xwd (Form) and .xml (Data) are saved to the folder you specified. However the .rlm file is redundant as Xerte copies it into the projects structure. So any changes you make to the .rlm file after you create the wizard will NOT change your project page. However you are free to alter the page's icon structure in the Xerte Desktop icon based editing environment. So a Page Wizard can be used as a starting point.</font></div>
<div><br></div><div><br>- Once built, are the sub-folders that house the wizard files needed any longer (for packing purposes or ?) or can they be deleted?</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#3366ff">You need to keep the sub folders as they contain the .xml files that carry the data for the page. The .rlm files can be deleted (though they are small so probably not significant in saving space) You could delete the .xwd files as well, but only if you don't want to open the page's wizard any more as the xwd file defines the form you use to populate your page with data.</font><br>
<br><br>- I believe I read somewhere that wizard code can’t be saved as a model and imported into a toolkits piece. Is that correct? My understanding is I can package any desktop flowline icons into a model and then import that into online toolkits via the ‘import xerte’ (I think that’s what its called) menu selection…but not anything that contains wizard pages identified with the small circle in the flowline. Am I correct on that?</div>
<div><br></div><div><font color="#3366ff">At present the current release of page wizards use slightly different models to those in on-line toolkits but I have found a way of enabling both Page Wizards and On-line toolkits to share the same .rlm files. However whilst the process is not automatic it is perfectly possible to create a page from the basis of a Page Wizard and then include it in the Page Templates or On-line Toolkits set of pages. At present there are some issues to be aware of such as avoiding duplicate object names in the xwd files (and duplicate file names with the .rlm files, having access to edit the templates.xwd file (not sure what the equivalent is in On-line Toolkits), and the fact that upgrades will replace the templates.xwd file and thus wipe out your new page in your On-line Toolkits installation.</font></div>
<div><font color="#3366ff"><br></font></div><div><font color="#3366ff">However these are issues that are being looked at. I have developed a number of new Page Wizards and I expect to make them available (if people want them) in the Page Templates / On-line Toolkits list of pages in the not to distant future.</font></div>
<div><font color="#3366ff"><br></font></div><div><font color="#3366ff">Kind regards<br></font></div><div><font color="#3366ff"><br></font></div><div><font color="#3366ff">Johnathan<br></font></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On 27 September 2011 18:29, KnowledgeWare <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:knowledgeware@kccsoft.com">knowledgeware@kccsoft.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-CA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks Tom/Julian for these answers!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">RonM2</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal">
<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext"> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Reijnders<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 26, 2011 10:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a></span></p><div class="im"><br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: question re inserting quiz.rlm into desktop xerte</div>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Ron,<div class="im"><br><br>- You can start the wizard interface again by double-clicking on the toplevel page wizard icon (the one with the circle)<br>- You have to keep them as they are<br>
- Correct. But I am not even sure whether you can import any 'normal' xerte flowline.<br><br>Tom<br><br>Op 27-9-2011 5:26, KnowledgeWare schreef: </div><div class="im"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hello Julian:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yes, thanks, that’s helpful.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:#1F497D">From my understanding, I think if there was a way to open the templates from totally outside the desktop version that would be more intuitive, because I think that’s really launching you into a totally different application and shutting down the desktop version. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The wizards however, I think are ideal where they are. A couple more questions re wizards if you don’t mind –</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p></div><p><span style="color:#1F497D">When I’m done with the wizard, and when its plugged its code into the desktop flowline…is there a way to edit that page using the wizard interface after that? Or is it a one time thing – you build your wizard once and it gets plugged into the flowline….any changes require building it from scratch again? I tried opening the folder with the related files to edit the wizard but that didn’t work.<br>
<br><br></span></p><div class="im"><p><span style="color:#1F497D">Once built, are the sub-folders that house the wizard files needed any longer (for packing purposes or ?) or can they be deleted?<br><br><br></span></p></div>
<div><div class="h5"><p><span style="color:#1F497D">I believe I read somewhere that wizard code can’t be saved as a model and imported into a toolkits piece. Is that correct? My understanding is I can package any desktop flowline icons into a model and then import that into online toolkits via the ‘import xerte’ (I think that’s what its called) menu selection…but not anything that contains wizard pages identified with the small circle in the flowline. Am I correct on that?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">RonM2</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext"> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 26, 2011 2:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: question re inserting quiz.rlm into desktop xerte</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Think like AW’s KOs.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Some are application level – for example the page templates template, which is the same thing as the Xerte Online Toolkit in Toolkit (maybe we should change Page templates to Xerte Online Toolkit in standalone xerte). The entire application is constructed using the wizard. The end user does not interact with the flow line at all.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">Some are page level. You can mix them up with your own custom code, thanks to Jonathan’s work.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">In all cases the wizard is used to edit the xml that the template uses.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">The template’s logic is implemented in a model. Think like AWs models, a chunk of flow line that does a particular thing. In this case they are data-driven by the xml edited in the wizard.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:#1F497D">I guess a temple comprises a wizard, some data and a model.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
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