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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Right, give it a whirl for me now: seems OK now…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><u><span style='color:blue'><a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_5748">http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_5748</a></span></u><u><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 September 2011 14:27<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Quick Test...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dunno. Banging on it, I can make it fail maybe 1 in 200 times, here on a fairly snappy network.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If the path was evaluating to undefined, it would be doing that every time. Do you get undefined, even when the page loads correctly?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Let’s get our new test case up and running and see what happens then.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 September 2011 14:24<br><b>To:</b> Xerte list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Quick Test...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Undefined a steady 27Kb.<br><br><br>sequence:<br><br><br>whitepanel.swf<br>undefined<br>the_actual_page swf.<br><br><br><br><br>Is something occupying the cpu so it is "missing" the onLoad?<br>Win 2K, IE6<br>No animations no matter how long I wait.<br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:19:24 +0100<br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Quick Test...<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hmm. I think that’s something else.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We’re building a new test case, be interesting to see if that still trips the undefined…</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 September 2011 14:17<br><b>To:</b> Xerte list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Quick Test...</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br><br>I'm getting an undefined in the cache.<br><br><br>??<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:56:23 +0100<br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Quick Test...<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Let’s get it working reliably in IE on windows before we start worrying about the more marginal cases…</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>;-)</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What seems to the case is that the onLoad event fires (the swf has loaded) and the white panel is positioned and resized – to a movie size of 0,0 at that point in time. The movies currently have a graphic symbol in frame 1 that defines their size: that should be the size when you interrogate it in onLoad, however, sometimes it is reporting 0,0.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The movies did have a graphic symbol in frame 1. We are changing those to be movieclips, and making sure they are present right across the timeline.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is it possible for a movie to load, with a movieclip in frame 1 at 0,0 of 200,300 width / height to report a size of 0,0 in the onLoad handler? It shouldn’t be… in my experience if a movie fails to load, onLoad doesn’t fire at all, it’s not got a success parameter in the function like the xml loaders.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So I am assuming that:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If onLoad fires, the movieclip has in fact loaded successfully;</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If onLoad fires, the movieclip has been instantiated in the loading movie;</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If onLoad fires, then the width and height of the loaded clip should reflect its width and height in frame 1.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Mitchell<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 September 2011 13:46<br><b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Quick Test...</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not many pages working in Safari on Windows 7 :-(</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(Flash player version shown at end) http://www.screenr.com/NBKs</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Slightly better in IE but still a lot of pages not showing anything but text content.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>HTH</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 September 2011 11:27<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Cc:</b> Colleen Mccants<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Quick Test...</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_5748" target="_blank">http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_5748</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Do you see animations on all the pages?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>If not, if you clear your cache, do you see animations on all the pages?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Can you let me know browser and version, flash player and version in any report? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span 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