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<br>Waiting for the hosting service to get back to me.<br><br>Martin pointed me to a brilliant little free tool - ProddingSCO<br>You just mount it on the LMS and it lets you do all sorts of diagnostics:<br><br>Sample log from my test:<br><br><div>LMSInitialize("") returns "true" </div>
<div>LMSSetValue("cmi.core.score.raw","1") </div>
<div>Returns "true" </div>
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<div>Returns "" </div><br><br>You tell me.<br>No error messages, no red lights, no alerts.<br>And no return value.<br><br><br><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:47:39 +0100<br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls<br><br>
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<div>is it your problem then?</div>
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<font color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett@hotmail.com]<br>
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Did all that.<br>
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In the wrapper, debugging true , alerts all the way through the process.<br>
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No errors, but it just returns null on this system.<br>
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Original system developed on (not Moodle) - works.<br>
Tom's Moodle 2 - works<br>
Tom's Moodle 1.9 - works<br>
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The fact that it is returning null leads me to believe it is reading the LMS.<br>
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But set is doing nothing.<br>
Has to be something in this particular setup.<br>
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From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>
To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:48:55 +0100<br>
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls<br>
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<div>then it wouldn't comply. I suppose it's possible but I don't think that's the right tree to bark up.</div>
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<div><font face="tahoma">How far through the process can you prove things are working?</font></div>
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<div><font face="tahoma">You can run alerts, or get evidence all the way through the javascript fucntion calls? Does data appear to be being set from api wrapper?</font></div>
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<div><font face="tahoma">If you can, the problem lies on the moodle side of things.</font></div>
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<div><font face="tahoma">You can see the api is found and initialised? Do you have access yourself so you can try stepping through it all? I'd try and get to the point where you can prove it's not your problem to solve...</font></div>
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<div>Tried another package you know to be ocmpliant? I think the ADL site had some lab rats you could use. Try and get Xerte / Flash out of the picture and see what happens? That will make it easier to prove...</div>
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<font color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett@hotmail.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 01 April 2011 10:46<br>
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<div>The plot thickens.<br>
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Tom (Thanks Tom!) has tested on his Moodle install and it works as expected.<br>
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The hosting service I am loading to uses Moodle 1.9.11.<br>
I do not think the version is the issue.<br>
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Is it possible to disable specific data elements?<br>
Since suspend_data is one of the few places you can dump stuff on the LMS, maybe they disabled for security reasons?<br>
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Dave<br>
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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 00:21:58 +0200<br>
From: reijnders@tor.nl<br>
To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls<br>
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I tried it on a quiz in moodle 2 (Moodle 2.0.2 (Build: 20110221))<br>
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It works (as long as you do not start a new attempt). Than suspend_data gets erased.<br>
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I am happy to test your file. <br>
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Regards,<br>
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Tom<br>
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Op 31-3-2011 19:08, Dave Burnett schreef:
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Anyone have Moodle access?<br>
I have a barebones 150K zip with nothing but a set/get pair.<br>
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Could this hosting service have killed the stored proc for suspend_data or something?<br>
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From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">
Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:49:25 +0100<br>
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls<br>
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<div>it ought to commit onUnload of the web apge, I think, if it hasn't already. But there's no need to: that's all handled by the js.</div>
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:d_b_burnett@hotmail.com">d_b_burnett@hotmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 31 March 2011 17:06<br>
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Can't suss it.<br>
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alert("api var " + api);<br>
[object object]<br>
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setValue<br>
alert(name); //cmi.suspend_data<br>
alert(value); //3<br>
No errors<br>
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getValue<br>
alert(value); //null<br>
No errors<br>
<br>
Do I need to force a commit or something?<br>
How do I call that from Xerte? <br>
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:49:36 +0100<br>
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls<br>
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<div>never n eeded to in the tset stuite: the suite should tell you whether things are initalising or not?</div>
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:d_b_burnett@hotmail.com">d_b_burnett@hotmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 31 March 2011 15:21<br>
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Can I turn on debugging for the API intialization?<br>
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I set var _Debug = true; in apiwrapper.js but get nothing.<br>
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Does that necessarily mean it setting up OK?<br>
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From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">
Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:04:12 +0100<br>
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle and cmi calls<br>
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<div>check the manual</div>
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<div><font face="tahoma">cmi.core.suspend_data? //but I think you're right cmi.suspend_data?</font></div>
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<div><font face="tahoma">What happens in the test suite?</font></div>
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a> [<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:d_b_burnett@hotmail.com">d_b_burnett@hotmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 31 March 2011 12:43<br>
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Any reason for this to not work in Moodle?<br>
<br>
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">_level0.setValue('cmi.suspend_data', 'some text');<br>
and <br>
_level0.getValue('cmi.suspend_data');</span><br>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">getValue returns null,
</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">setValue seems to do nothing.<br>
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No API adapter errors come up.<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
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