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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes! It leads to Truth or Consequences, New Mexico (that’s a real town).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick Lockley<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 04, 2011 7:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Score. That’s my favourite road, it’s somewhere in Nevada right?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alistair McNaught<br><b>Sent:</b> 04 February 2011 14:40<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is a road to psychosis and hallucination. Trust me…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 04 February 2011 13:30<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is there an agreed taxonomy for all words?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 04 February 2011 13:29<br><b>To:</b> Xerte list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Only way not to make a hash of it.<br><br>If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application.<br>Let then pick from the available.<br>Doesn't exist, let them add it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='margin-left:.5in'><div style='margin-left:.5in'><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000<br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words…</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 04 February 2011 13:21<br><b>To:</b> Xerte list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter:<br><br>programming:constructor<br><br>Else they get the whole list.<br><br><br><br><br>> From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>> To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000<br>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<br>> <br>> Quite. You have to do:<br>> <br>> Constuctor:<br>> 1. A man building something<br>> 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP<br>> <br>> Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple...<br>> <br>> The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions...<br>> <br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley<br>> Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21<br>> To: Xerte discussion list<br>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<br>> <br>> > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of<br>> > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often<br>> > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or<br>> > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a<br>> > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and<br>> > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that<br>> > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and<br>> > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content,<br>> > and makes it reusable...<br>> <br>> I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. <br>> <br>> I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. 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