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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span lang=EN style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A5B5B'>That made me laugh.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span lang=EN style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A5B5B'>We want to make all the world's content more accessible, interoperable and valuable. Some call it Web 2.0, Web 3.0, the Semantic Web or the Giant Global Graph - we call our piece of it… <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span lang=EN style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A5B5B'>…Calais.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span lang=EN style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A5B5B'>It’s a bit like<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span lang=EN style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A5B5B'>We want to bring world peace, international cooperation, eradicate disease and educate the masses. We are called…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><span lang=EN style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5A5B5B'>…Skegness<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick Lockley<br><b>Sent:</b> 04 February 2011 13:33<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Duh *<b>slaps self</b>* I just remembered Open Calais<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s not quite the droid you are looking for - http://www.opencalais.com/<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 04 February 2011 13:29<br><b>To:</b> Xerte list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Only way not to make a hash of it.<br><br>If the service has an API, could invoke a popup of taxonomy when a word is selected for application.<br>Let then pick from the available.<br>Doesn't exist, let them add it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:22:19 +0000<br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Then you need an agreed taxonomy for all words…</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 04 February 2011 13:21<br><b>To:</b> Xerte list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Maybe the client has to pass or set a global a disambiguation parameter:<br><br>programming:constructor<br><br>Else they get the whole list.<br><br><br><br><br>> From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>> To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:11:05 +0000<br>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<br>> <br>> Quite. You have to do:<br>> <br>> Constuctor:<br>> 1. A man building something<br>> 2. The function that initiates a class in OOP<br>> <br>> Which might render the whole thing useless. Normally my ever-so-simple ideas don't turn out to be so simple...<br>> <br>> The word 'set' for example has 464 definitions...<br>> <br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fred Riley<br>> Sent: 04 February 2011 12:21<br>> To: Xerte discussion list<br>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Dictionary Web Service<br>> <br>> > I don't think the goal ought to be to try and produce a glossary of<br>> > everything. Relying on existing sources is problematic because often<br>> > folk want a particular definition, to highlight a particular point, or<br>> > to nuance the wording in a particular way. I'm thinking pretty lo-fi, a<br>> > database table with maybe as little as two fields 'word' and 'defn' and<br>> > some simple methods of adding words and finding defns. Then that<br>> > content can live outside of the actual content that presents it, and<br>> > that solves the problem of this stuff living inside pieces of content,<br>> > and makes it reusable...<br>> <br>> I can see exactly what you're after, but I just don't think it would be that simple because glossary terms will have different definitions in different contexts. The term 'constructor', say, means one thing in a programming sense, another in a built environment sense, and probably appears in other subjects I know nothing about. Or take 'spin', which has a specific meaning in quantum physics, another in politics, another in engineering, and so on. So your database would have to cater for this. Then you'll have contributors arguing over correct definitions and you might get 'edit wars' as Wikipedia famously has unless you allow for multiple definitions by contributor (A says X means Y, but B says X means Z, etc) and maybe source as you'd not want to not use existing glossaries. I can see quite a few tables in any database. <br>> <br>> I'm not saying it's not feasible, I just don't think it'd be as wash 'n' go as you think. It is desirable, certainly, for the reasons you've outlined, and as you say would fit in nicely with the uni OER agenda. <br>> <br>> Fred<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Xerte mailing list<br>> Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Xerte mailing list<br>> Xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>> http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/xerte<br>> <br>> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. 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