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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>OK, we so we know it is down to how the editor opens the file. That’s good detective work. It is not happening here. We need to dig around in the process by which the file is opened. Just to check:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you do it as it should be, i.e. with one slash, what do you see in the saved .xml file on the server? One slash?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>And what happens if you then re-edit that file (so it now breaks) and exit again?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Read<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 January 2011 11:36<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>- open the editor, make some working latex;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>- preview – it works, right?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>- don’t close the editor<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>- make it public, set access rights, publish it<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>- now hit it using the play_wxyz url as your end users would hit it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>DONE.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>The LO works when using the play URL – and even when the editor is closed. The changes seem to save, right up until you attempt to re-open the editor and publish – then it seems to strip out the slashes and latex breaks. Of course, needing to constantly re-edit is a bit of a pain!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 January 2011 11:07<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>>works (until the editor is closed).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>That’s the puzzling bit. The file is saved when previewed, so it’s not how the file is being saved, it’s how the file is being opened: try this:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>- open the editor, make some working latex;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>- preview – it works, right?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>- don’t close the editor<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>- make it public, set access rights, publish it<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>- now hit it using the play_wxyz url as your end users would hit it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>That fails (because we have just loaded up the xml)?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>But preview still works (because we haven’t just loaded up the xml)?</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Read<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 January 2011 11:03<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>Double use of HTML chars seems to break the latex whereas \\ or \\ works (until the editor is closed).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>Whatever combinations I try the data.xml file still only shows one slash:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>- <![CDATA[ Here's a simple bit of maths:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><br><tex src="ax^2 + bx + c"></tex><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><br><br>But you can also do complicated stuff like:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><br><tex src="\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a} "></tex><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><br><br><br>Or just keep things simple:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><br><tex src="\frac{1}{3}"></tex><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><br><br><br>and like this:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><br><tex src="a \neq 0"></tex><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'> ]]><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 January 2011 10:52<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>You can see that in the .xml file?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Read<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 January 2011 10:52<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>Nope, Xerte still strips them out after publish/close/re-edit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#244061'>L</span><span style='color:#244061'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 January 2011 10:35<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hmm.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Maybe use the html escape character?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Read<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 January 2011 10:28<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>Arghhh, it would appear that once you close the edit window and re-open Xerte strips out the extra \s.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>Then the latex breaks on windows. Any suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'>A.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='color:#244061'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Read<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 January 2011 10:23<br><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Hi Julian<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Thanks for the suggestion. It does look like it's something to do with Windows messing around with the "\"s. I've managed to fiddle around to get it to display correctly:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>It would appear double \\ is needed before special characters:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="ax^2 + bx + c"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><br>are given by the formula<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><tex src="<a href="file:///\\frac%7b-b%20\pm%20\sqrt%7bb%5e2%20-%204ac%7d%7d%7b2a%7d%20">\\frac{-b \\pm \\sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a} </a>"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><br><br>where<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><tex src="<a href="file:///\\frac%7b1%7d%7b3%7d">\\frac{1}{3}</a>"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><br><br>where<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><tex src="a <a href="file:///\\neq">\\neq</a> 0"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Which then outputs:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><img border=0 width=315 height=312 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CBBBBB.3A2D5900"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I don’t suppose there is another work around for this? I’m sure staff could get used to adding the extra “\”s where needed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Cheers, Adam <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>-----Original Message-----<br>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<br>Sent: 24 January 2011 10:00<br>To: Xerte discussion list<br>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>After a bit of pre-processing the url that is called is:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>latex[1] = 'http://www.forkosh.dreamhost.com/mathtex.cgi?\\png ' + escape(latex[1]) + '#.png';<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>where latex[1] is the src string, so this returns an image:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="http://www.forkosh.dreamhost.com/mathtex.cgi?\png%20e=mc%5e2#.png"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.forkosh.dreamhost.com/mathtex.cgi?\png%20e=mc^2#.png</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>A simple fraction<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="http://www.forkosh.dreamhost.com/mathtex.cgi?\png%20\frac%7b1%7d%7b3%7d#.png"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.forkosh.dreamhost.com/mathtex.cgi?\png%20\frac{1}{3}#.png</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>the #.png is for flash, otherwise it doesn't know an image is coming back, and won't try and display one, so directly in the browser you can do this:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="http://www.forkosh.dreamhost.com/mathtex.cgi?\png%20\frac%7b1%7d%7b3%7d"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.forkosh.dreamhost.com/mathtex.cgi?\png%20\frac{1}{3}</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>It does appear that your '\' is being lost, i.e. not escaped on the way through somewhere.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 24 January 2011 08:40<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Cheers Pat.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I'll wait and see if Julian can send a latex URL. For the meantime, let's blame Windows...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>---------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>eLearning Technologist<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Learning and Quality Unit<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>University College Plymouth St Mark & St John<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Tel: 01752 636700 Ext: 5673 | Room: 114<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 19:20<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Xot has always generated one red error when it loads a project. Never sure why.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>As for the problem, and by looking at the latex construction it would seem that the \ character isn't being sent properly.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Adam, your server is windows, so it may send it in a different way. Julian could you send Adam a URL with the latex as a string so he can access it directly and see what happens.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Failing that, click on the latex URL in fiddler and some new panels appear on the right hand side. One of those will show exactly what data has been sent.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>If these fail, on the rising of the sun on Tuesday morning, look west and I shall appear ________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 3:34 PM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I saw the undefined in there and didn’t like the look of it. Pat knows more about it. It shows you all the requests your machine is making: one of them / some of them will be for the latex images, I wanted to see what they were,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 15:33<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Don’t really get fiddler. 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</o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>1,635<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>text/html<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>chrome:5796<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Adam<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 15:00<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I want to see what URL is being requested for the latex stuff:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I get this when I try and debug in fiddler – problem?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image001.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image001.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 14:44<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>It does seem strange<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Here my LO running the code below: <a href="http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/rlo/play.php?template_id=201"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/rlo/play.php?template_id=201</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Can anyone else get proper symbols appearing in an LO using John’s code:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="ax^2 + bx + c"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><br>are given by the formula<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><tex src="\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a} "></tex> <br><br><br>where <br><tex src="a \neq 0"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Should display like:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image002.jpg@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image002.jpg@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Not like this:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image003.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image003.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Adam<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 14:36<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Bit lost then, because those are images returned from a server somewhere. Not sure why the requests from your machine / network for the same thing to the same place return different results…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Post the link to your object so we can run it?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 14:35<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Yep – updated it earlier to fix the gapfill problem.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 14:19<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>What XMLEngine.swf have you got?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Is it this one?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 14:17<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Hi John<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Thanks very much for providing the examples. However, mine still doesn’t seem to want to render special characters.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>First example:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image004.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image004.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Returns this in Xerte:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image005.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image005.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Any ideas?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Adam<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John Horton<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 14:06<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Here are some examples:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="ax^2 + bx + c"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><br>are given by the formula<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><tex src="\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a} "></tex> <br><br><br>where <br><tex src="a \neq 0"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image006.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image006.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="e^{-i\pi} \;+ \;1 \;=\; 0"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image007.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image007.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="E = mc^2"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><br>where<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><tex src="m = \frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image008.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image008.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="\frac{1}{c^2}\; \frac{\partial \psi^2}{\partial t^2} \;=\; \nabla^2\psi"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image009.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image009.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>This is the general equation where H is the Hamiltonian:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><tex src="i\hbar {\partial\Psi(\mathbf{r} ,\,t) \over \partial t} = \hat H \Psi(\mathbf{r},\,t)"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><br><br>For a single particle in three dimensions it can reduced to:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="i\hbar\frac{\partial}{\partial t} \Psi(\mathbf{r},\,t) = -\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\nabla^2\Psi(\mathbf{r},\,t) + V(\mathbf{r})\Psi(\mathbf{r},\,t)"></tex><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image010.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image010.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 13:55<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>It’s the $ in your example that seems to be causing the problems I think. This works without them in:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="\sqrt{2}"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 13:07<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Cheers Julian<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>A.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 13:03<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>It’s not my project. I did look at the raw xml, but it has a load of escaped characters in there which make it more difficult to copy / paste into a mail. I have sent your message to the owner of the project.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 12:16<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>No chance of seeing the text as it appears in that Xerte LO?!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>That document doesn’t really help at the moment as I can’t replicate the examples in Xerte until im sure what to include and what not to!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>For example, the document tells you to write:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>\documentclass{article}<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>\begin{document}<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>The square root of two: $\sqrt{2}$. I can type math!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>\end{document}<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To output:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image011.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image011.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>But in Xerte<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="\documentclass{article}<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>\begin{document}<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>The square root of two: $\sqrt{2}$. I can type math!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>\end{document}<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Renders:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image012.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image012.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>And<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="The square root of two: $\sqrt{2}$. I can type math!"> renders:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image013.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image013.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="$\sqrt{2}$"> just renders:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image014.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image014.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Any ideas? I could probably work out what I’m missing from that example Nottingham LATEX LO!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>---------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>eLearning Technologist<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 11:55<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I don’t think there is anything ‘funny’ about the latex service we use. It is a third party service though, but we are working to implementing it ourselves,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 11:45<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Any chance of seeing the LATEX code to generate these equations:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_595"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_595</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>My LO doesn’t seem to want to do fancy graphic ones (e.g. special chars) – do you need to tell latex to load a set of chars? I can get it to render things like e=mc2 but not much else:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><a href="mailto:[cid:image015.png@01CBB980.AC292080]"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>[cid:image015.png@01CBB980.AC292080]</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Bl***y maths…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I’ve tried doing<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src="\usepackage{amsmath}”> to no avail.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>---------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>eLearning Technologist<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 11:00<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Re: Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Use latex in text fields<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><tex src=”e=mc^2”><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Sent: 21 January 2011 11:00<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>To: Xerte discussion list (xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Subject: [Xerte] Math Symbols<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Hi all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Is anyone using Math / Scientific symbols in Xerte? I’ve had a request for help from a Maths lecturer who needs to use symbols.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>I’ve had a go using <sub> and <sup> which works in XOT with “allow subscripts” ticked, and also came across an earlier list post pointing out HTML chars which seem to work, but I also came across some reference to Latex.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>Does latex work in XOT? Last I read it seemed some service you chaps used had crashed?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>If there is an easier way than using HTML syntax then let me know. 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England College Founded in 1840<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'> of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'>University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:144.0pt'> Phone: 01752 636700 Web: <a href="http://www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk%3chttp:/www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk"><span 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Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. <o:p></o:p></p><pre style='margin-left:144.0pt'>University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:144.0pt'> Phone: 01752 636700 Web: <a href="http://www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk">www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk</a> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:144.0pt'> Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:144.0pt'>University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:144.0pt'> of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:108.0pt'>University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:108.0pt'> Phone: 01752 636700 Web: <a href="http://www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk">www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk</a> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:108.0pt'> Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:108.0pt'>University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:108.0pt'> of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:72.0pt'>University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:72.0pt'> Phone: 01752 636700 Web: <a href="http://www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk">www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk</a> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:72.0pt'> Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:72.0pt'>University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:72.0pt'> of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>University College Plymouth St Mark & St John, Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'> Phone: 01752 636700 Web: www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'> Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'>University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'> of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239 <o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>