<div>Do you have any plans to update the Xerte setup.exe download from the main web site so as to incorporate your changes into the Xerte release, any time soon?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Up to now I have kept the page wizards up to date by downloading the latest version of Xerte and then creating a page templates project and comparing the files in the project, using winDiff, to the previous release of Xerte. I would find that much easier than downloading a number of separate updates. It ensures that my build of Xerte has all the files it needs to support the models e.g. if there have been changes in the build itself or in related swf or fla files.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Johnathan</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 September 2010 13:29, Julian Tenney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">They are in the Xerte repo at <a href="http://code.google.com/p/xerte" target="_blank">code.google.com/p/xerte</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">
<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp
Johnathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 September 2010 13:25<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Xerte] [Xerte 2] Issues whilst updating page
wizardstoincorporate recent changes to pageTemplates rlm files</span></p>
</div><div><div class="h5">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Sorry about the delay in testing.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I have included your modified rlm
file details in the page wizard and the issue with premature feedback display
appears to be fixed.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I took a look in the svn but this
shows an upload date of June 2009. I also downloaded the latest Xerte today but
the models appear unchanged from those I downloaded on July 28th.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Can you tell me where I can
access the latest page templates project template files that contain the
updated files for the pages that you were going to fix, as discussed above, so
that I can finalise my next release of page wizards.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Kind regards</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Johnathan</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On 2 September 2010 16:50, Julian
Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:</p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Fixed it. See
attached. At least I can’t break it anymore by following your instructions…</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan</span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 02 September 2010 11:34</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Xerte] [Xerte 2] Issues whilst updating page wizards
toincorporate recent changes to pageTemplates rlm files </p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Hello Julian,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">I have just created a new project using the current version
of Xerte (downloaded last night) and created a gap fill page to test.</p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Display of the feedback at an incorrect time does not
happen often but I have managed to create a sequence of events that appears
duplicable.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Create a new pageTemplates based project, add a gap fill
page and a title page (the latter may not be critical to the test, but I was
also trying out the effect of returning to the page during my tests, so needed
a second page).</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">In the gap fill page wizard set interactivity to drag drop
and mark the gap fill text as in the example below. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Enter interactive text here. To mark words for the exercise
select the |word| using the mouse and |right-click|, choosing 'mark word' from
the |menu|.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Now preview the page and in this order:</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">1.<span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span>drag "right-click" to its correct location, </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">2.<span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span>drag word to its correct location, </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">3.<span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span><b>Do not drag "menu" to its correct location.</b> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">4.<span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span>Now left click on the right-click correct location and the feedback will
be displayed, </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">5.<span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span>left click again on this location and the feedback will disappear.</p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">I was also able to duplicate the displacement of the mouse
pointer from the dragged word by dropping a word on an incorrect place marker
and then attempting to catch the word by clicking on it as it was returning to
its start location. The only way I could release the word so that I could pick
it up properly was to click on another word. This is probably not a major issue
as the only time it would prove problematic was if you managed to pick up the
last available word in this way, and to do so you would be being somewhat
perverse as by then its correct location should be obvious.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">With respect to the column page. I tried to acheive a
situation where the picture was constrained by the column width and the text
area was then sized to fit the space remaining in the column. This would have
preserved the aspect ratio of the picture and allowed for different sized
pictures to leave space for as large a text area as would be allowed by the
picture size. It would then be for the user to select pictures sensibly and
make size adjustments if necessary in the event of wanting to use a very tall
and slim picture. But I couldn't get this to work. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">I downloaded Xerte last night and the models appear to be
the same as those I downloaded on the 28th July. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Where can I gain access to your updated models?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Kind regards</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Johnathan</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">On 1 September 2010 11:28, Julian Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Just worked
through these – thanks for the info:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">‘Links’ is
fixed.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Files only
consume one .css file, but individual text icons can consume their own .css if
need be.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Morph Image is
fixed.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Categories is
amended – thanks.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Column page:
it works the way it always has done, in that it will try and fit the text to
the page, and the image in whatever space remains. If more text exists than can
be displayed, it fails. This was always a FOL, but it should probably behave
better: questions is, what should it do, and at what point does the scrolling
text kick in (when the image occupies less than half the space? Less than one
third?)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Can you tell
me how to reliably replicate the gap fill issue with feedback? I can’t
replicate it in my example. I haven’t added a ‘show me’ button yet, but can
easily do that.</span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">J</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan</span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b>Sent:</b> 25 August 2010 14:07</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] [Xerte 2] Issues whilst updating
page wizards to incorporate recent changes to pageTemplates rlm files</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">Hello Julian,</p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">I downloaded the latest Xerte 2 in July and have been
working on the updates to the rlm files to create new page wizards for Links
and MorphImages.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">I have hit a few issues with some of the pages. <span style="color:#3366FF">Blue</span> items are issues that you may wish to look at
in the pageTemplates version, <span style="color:red">Red</span> issues are
currently preventing me from releasing an updated wizard so any help you can
offer would be most appreciated. <span style="color:#009900">Green</span>
issues are requests for features.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><b>Links</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:#3366FF">The pageTemplates version xml needs changing as it sets
the default height of the links to "medium" but the code uses
numerical values. This corrects itself when you change the height in the
wizard but the default xml needs to replace the height value of
"medium" with "80".</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:red">There appears to be a bug in the links template. Create a new
links page and make it the second page in your project. Leave the default
column setting of 3 and add one link. At this point you can preview and go back
and forward between pages 1 and 2 without problem. Now open the Link page
wizard and add a second link. Then preview the project and go back and forward
between pages 1 and 2. You should now see a third undefined link displayed,
which is not reflected in the xml. Add a fourth column and you should be able
to generate a fourth undefined link by going back and forward between pages 1
and 2.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>I
figured out how to add a style sheet to a project so that the links would show
as underlined. However I note that in the Xerte page templates projects there
are two style sheets in the common folder "styles.css" and
"wikistyles.css". Is there a way by which a Xerte project can consume
more than one css file? </p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><b>MorphImage</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:#3366FF">The pagetemplates version fails to display tooltips -
there is an incorrect reference on the image icons and no tooltip property in
the wizard. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:#3366FF">I have modified the Page Wizard version to provide for
specification of tooltips for image 1 and image 2 and to also allow images to
extend to fill more of the page if it is a larger image. (maxWidth to 600 in
calculate script attached to onLoadGraphic1 so as to allow more space for
larger pictures, also I reduced the height of the text icon with id of
"textBlock" to 440 as otherwise a large amount of text can displace
the Zoom buttons position onto the bottom configuration selections.</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><b>Categories</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:#3366FF">This no longer makes any use of labelHeight so this can
be removed from the xwd and xml files.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><b>ColumnPage</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:red">Not sure what the two lines of changes are intended to do
(lines 63 and 64). The page still appears to have a problem with sizing the
text area of the column so that pictures remain on screen and the text auto
scrolls within the remaining space available for the text. I tried to find
create a fix for this but ended up with text areas that fitted the available
space but the displayed text font size had shrunk to enable the text to all fit
in, rather than auto scrolling.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><b>GapFill</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:red">This page appears to present feedback inconsistently when in
drag and drop mode. I found this to also be an issue with the previous version of
the rml when I went back to test it. In the drag and drop mode feedback is
sometimes displayed on partial completion of the exercise, or may be displayed
only then to disappear. I also found that sometimes with the new model the word
would become displaced from the mouse pointer, but still being dragged around.
I think this happened when it somehow got reattached to the mouse pointer
whilst returning to its start position after an incorrect drop. I could not
duplicate this in the earlier version of the rml.</span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:144.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:#009900">When in fill in gap mode It would also be helpful if
there was some way out of the exercise i.e. a way of giving up and seeing the
correct answers. Currently you just keep making guesses.</span> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">Kind regards</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt">Johnathan</p>
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