<div>Sorry about the delay in testing.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I have included your modified rlm file details in the page wizard and the issue with premature feedback display appears to be fixed.</div><div><br></div><div>
I took a look in the svn but this shows an upload date of June 2009. I also downloaded the latest Xerte today but the models appear unchanged from those I downloaded on July 28th.</div><div><br></div><div>Can you tell me where I can access the latest page templates project template files that contain the updated files for the pages that you were going to fix, as discussed above, so that I can finalise my next release of page wizards.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Johnathan</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 September 2010 16:50, Julian Tenney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Fixed it. See attached. At least I can’t break it anymore by
following your instructions…</span></p>
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<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp
Johnathan</span></p><div class="im"><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 02 September 2010 11:34<br>
</div><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Xerte] [Xerte 2] Issues whilst updating page wizards
toincorporate recent changes to pageTemplates rlm files
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Hello Julian,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I have just created a new project
using the current version of Xerte (downloaded last night) and created a gap
fill page to test.</p>
</div><div class="im">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Display of the feedback at an
incorrect time does not happen often but I have managed to create a sequence of
events that appears duplicable.</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Create a new pageTemplates based
project, add a gap fill page and a title page (the latter may not be critical
to the test, but I was also trying out the effect of returning to the page
during my tests, so needed a second page).</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">In the gap fill page wizard set
interactivity to drag drop and mark the gap fill text as in the example
below. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Enter interactive text here. To
mark words for the exercise select the |word| using the mouse and
|right-click|, choosing 'mark word' from the |menu|.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Now preview the page and in this
order:</p>
</div>
</div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span>drag "right-click" to its correct location, </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span>drag word to its correct location, </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><b>Do not drag "menu" to its correct
location.</b> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span>4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span>Now left click on the right-click correct location and
the feedback will be displayed, </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span>5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span>left click again on this location and the feedback will
disappear.</p>
</div><div><div class="h5">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I was also able to duplicate the
displacement of the mouse pointer from the dragged word by dropping a word on
an incorrect place marker and then attempting to catch the word by clicking on
it as it was returning to its start location. The only way I could release the
word so that I could pick it up properly was to click on another word. This is
probably not a major issue as the only time it would prove problematic was if
you managed to pick up the last available word in this way, and to do so you
would be being somewhat perverse as by then its correct location should be
obvious.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">With respect to the column page.
I tried to acheive a situation where the picture was constrained by the column
width and the text area was then sized to fit the space remaining in the
column. This would have preserved the aspect ratio of the picture and allowed
for different sized pictures to leave space for as large a text area as would
be allowed by the picture size. It would then be for the user to select
pictures sensibly and make size adjustments if necessary in the event of
wanting to use a very tall and slim picture. But I couldn't get this to
work. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I downloaded Xerte last night and
the models appear to be the same as those I downloaded on the 28th July. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Where can I gain access to your
updated models?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Kind regards</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Johnathan</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On 1 September 2010 11:28, Julian
Tenney <<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>>
wrote:</p>
<div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Just worked
through these – thanks for the info:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">‘Links’ is
fixed.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Files only
consume one .css file, but individual text icons can consume their own .css if
need be.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Morph Image is
fixed.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Categories is
amended – thanks.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Column page:
it works the way it always has done, in that it will try and fit the text to
the page, and the image in whatever space remains. If more text exists than can
be displayed, it fails. This was always a FOL, but it should probably behave
better: questions is, what should it do, and at what point does the scrolling
text kick in (when the image occupies less than half the space? Less than one
third?)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Can you tell
me how to reliably replicate the gap fill issue with feedback? I can’t replicate
it in my example. I haven’t added a ‘show me’ button yet, but can easily do
that.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">J</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp Johnathan</span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b>Sent:</b> 25 August 2010 14:07</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] [Xerte 2]
Issues whilst updating page wizards to incorporate recent changes to
pageTemplates rlm files</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Hello Julian,</p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">I downloaded the latest Xerte 2 in July and have been
working on the updates to the rlm files to create new page wizards for Links
and MorphImages.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">I have hit a few issues with some of the pages. <span style="color:#3366FF">Blue</span> items are issues that you may wish to look at
in the pageTemplates version, <span style="color:red">Red</span> issues are
currently preventing me from releasing an updated wizard so any help you can
offer would be most appreciated. <span style="color:#009900">Green</span>
issues are requests for features.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b>Links</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:#3366FF">The pageTemplates version xml needs changing as it sets
the default height of the links to "medium" but the code uses
numerical values. This corrects itself when you change the height in the
wizard but the default xml needs to replace the height value of
"medium" with "80".</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:red">There appears to be a bug in the links template. Create a new
links page and make it the second page in your project. Leave the default
column setting of 3 and add one link. At this point you can preview and go back
and forward between pages 1 and 2 without problem. Now open the Link page
wizard and add a second link. Then preview the project and go back and forward
between pages 1 and 2. You should now see a third undefined link displayed,
which is not reflected in the xml. Add a fourth column and you should be able
to generate a fourth undefined link by going back and forward between pages 1
and 2.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>I
figured out how to add a style sheet to a project so that the links would show
as underlined. However I note that in the Xerte page templates projects there
are two style sheets in the common folder "styles.css" and
"wikistyles.css". Is there a way by which a Xerte project can consume
more than one css file? </p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b>MorphImage</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:#3366FF">The pagetemplates version fails to display tooltips -
there is an incorrect reference on the image icons and no tooltip property in
the wizard. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:#3366FF">I have modified the Page Wizard version to provide for
specification of tooltips for image 1 and image 2 and to also allow images to
extend to fill more of the page if it is a larger image. (maxWidth to 600 in
calculate script attached to onLoadGraphic1 so as to allow more space for
larger pictures, also I reduced the height of the text icon with id of
"textBlock" to 440 as otherwise a large amount of text can displace
the Zoom buttons position onto the bottom configuration selections.</span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b>Categories</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:#3366FF">This no longer makes any use of labelHeight so this can
be removed from the xwd and xml files.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b>ColumnPage</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:red">Not sure what the two lines of changes are intended to do
(lines 63 and 64). The page still appears to have a problem with sizing the
text area of the column so that pictures remain on screen and the text auto
scrolls within the remaining space available for the text. I tried to find
create a fix for this but ended up with text areas that fitted the available
space but the displayed text font size had shrunk to enable the text to all fit
in, rather than auto scrolling.</span></p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b>GapFill</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:red">This page appears to present feedback inconsistently when in
drag and drop mode. I found this to also be an issue with the previous version
of the rml when I went back to test it. In the drag and drop mode feedback is
sometimes displayed on partial completion of the exercise, or may be displayed
only then to disappear. I also found that sometimes with the new model the word
would become displaced from the mouse pointer, but still being dragged around.
I think this happened when it somehow got reattached to the mouse pointer whilst
returning to its start position after an incorrect drop. I could not duplicate
this in the earlier version of the rml.</span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:108.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="color:#009900">When in fill in gap mode It would also be helpful if
there was some way out of the exercise i.e. a way of giving up and seeing the
correct answers. Currently you just keep making guesses.</span> </p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Kind regards</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Johnathan</p>
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