<div>Hello Julian,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I have just created a new project using the current version of Xerte (downloaded last night) and created a gap fill page to test.</div><div> </div><div>Display of the feedback at an incorrect time does not happen often but I have managed to create a sequence of events that appears duplicable.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Create a new pageTemplates based project, add a gap fill page and a title page (the latter may not be critical to the test, but I was also trying out the effect of returning to the page during my tests, so needed a second page).</div>
<div><br></div><div>In the gap fill page wizard set interactivity to drag drop and mark the gap fill text as in the example below. </div><div><br></div><div>Enter interactive text here. To mark words for the exercise select the |word| using the mouse and |right-click|, choosing 'mark word' from the |menu|.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Now preview the page and in this order:</div><ol><li><div>drag "right-click" to its correct location, </div></li><li><div>drag word to its correct location, </div></li><li><div><strong>Do not drag "menu" to its correct location.</strong> </div>
</li><li><div>Now left click on the right-click correct location and the feedback will be displayed, </div></li><li><div>left click again on this location and the feedback will disappear.</div></li></ol><div><br></div><div>
I was also able to duplicate the displacement of the mouse pointer from the dragged word by dropping a word on an incorrect place marker and then attempting to catch the word by clicking on it as it was returning to its start location. The only way I could release the word so that I could pick it up properly was to click on another word. This is probably not a major issue as the only time it would prove problematic was if you managed to pick up the last available word in this way, and to do so you would be being somewhat perverse as by then its correct location should be obvious.</div>
<div><br></div><div>With respect to the column page. I tried to acheive a situation where the picture was constrained by the column width and the text area was then sized to fit the space remaining in the column. This would have preserved the aspect ratio of the picture and allowed for different sized pictures to leave space for as large a text area as would be allowed by the picture size. It would then be for the user to select pictures sensibly and make size adjustments if necessary in the event of wanting to use a very tall and slim picture. But I couldn't get this to work. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I downloaded Xerte last night and the models appear to be the same as those I downloaded on the 28th July. </div><div><br></div><div>Where can I gain access to your updated models?</div><div><br></div>
<div>Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Johnathan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 September 2010 11:28, Julian Tenney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk">Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Just worked through these – thanks for the info:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">‘Links’ is fixed.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Files only consume one .css file, but individual text icons can
consume their own .css if need be.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Morph Image is fixed.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Categories is amended – thanks.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Column page: it works the way it always has done, in that it
will try and fit the text to the page, and the image in whatever space remains.
If more text exists than can be displayed, it fails. This was always a FOL, but
it should probably behave better: questions is, what should it do, and at what
point does the scrolling text kick in (when the image occupies less than half
the space? Less than one third?)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Can you tell me how to reliably replicate the gap fill issue
with feedback? I can’t replicate it in my example. I haven’t added a ‘show me’
button yet, but can easily do that.</span></p><div class="im">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">J</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kemp
Johnathan</span></p><div>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 August 2010 14:07</div><div>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list</div><div>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] [Xerte 2] Issues whilst updating page wizards to
incorporate recent changes to pageTemplates rlm files</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Hello Julian,</p>
</div><div><div class="h5">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I downloaded the latest Xerte 2
in July and have been working on the updates to the rlm files to create new
page wizards for Links and MorphImages.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">I have hit a few issues with some
of the pages. <span style="color:#3366FF">Blue</span> items are issues that you
may wish to look at in the pageTemplates version, <span style="color:red">Red</span>
issues are currently preventing me from releasing an updated wizard so any help
you can offer would be most appreciated. <span style="color:#009900">Green</span>
issues are requests for features.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b>Links</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="color:#3366FF">The pageTemplates
version xml needs changing as it sets the default height of the links to
"medium" but the code uses numerical values. This corrects
itself when you change the height in the wizard but the default xml needs to
replace the height value of "medium" with "80".</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="color:red">There appears to be a
bug in the links template. Create a new links page and make it the second page
in your project. Leave the default column setting of 3 and add one link. At
this point you can preview and go back and forward between pages 1 and 2 without
problem. Now open the Link page wizard and add a second link. Then preview the
project and go back and forward between pages 1 and 2. You should now see a
third undefined link displayed, which is not reflected in the xml. Add a fourth
column and you should be able to generate a fourth undefined link by going back
and forward between pages 1 and 2.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>I figured out how to add a style sheet to a
project so that the links would show as underlined. However I note that in the
Xerte page templates projects there are two style sheets in the common folder
"styles.css" and "wikistyles.css". Is there a way by which
a Xerte project can consume more than one css file? </p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b>MorphImage</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="color:#3366FF">The pagetemplates
version fails to display tooltips - there is an incorrect reference on the
image icons and no tooltip property in the wizard. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="color:#3366FF">I have modified the
Page Wizard version to provide for specification of tooltips for image 1 and
image 2 and to also allow images to extend to fill more of the page if it is a
larger image. (maxWidth to 600 in calculate script attached to onLoadGraphic1
so as to allow more space for larger pictures, also I reduced the height of the
text icon with id of "textBlock" to 440 as otherwise a large amount
of text can displace the Zoom buttons position onto the bottom configuration
selections.</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b>Categories</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="color:#3366FF">This no longer makes
any use of labelHeight so this can be removed from the xwd and xml files.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b>ColumnPage</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="color:red">Not sure what the two
lines of changes are intended to do (lines 63 and 64). The page still appears
to have a problem with sizing the text area of the column so that pictures
remain on screen and the text auto scrolls within the remaining space available
for the text. I tried to find create a fix for this but ended up with text
areas that fitted the available space but the displayed text font size had
shrunk to enable the text to all fit in, rather than auto scrolling.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b>GapFill</b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="color:red">This page appears to
present feedback inconsistently when in drag and drop mode. I found this to
also be an issue with the previous version of the rml when I went back to test
it. In the drag and drop mode feedback is sometimes displayed on partial completion
of the exercise, or may be displayed only then to disappear. I also found that
sometimes with the new model the word would become displaced from the mouse
pointer, but still being dragged around. I think this happened when it somehow
got reattached to the mouse pointer whilst returning to its start position
after an incorrect drop. I could not duplicate this in the earlier version of
the rml.</span> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="color:#009900">When in fill in gap
mode It would also be helpful if there was some way out of the exercise i.e. a
way of giving up and seeing the correct answers. Currently you just keep making
guesses.</span> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Kind regards</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"> </p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Johnathan</p>
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