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<div class="ecxSection1"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">>but only as they demonstrate they are
in fact making some effort, and they can’t get there just by hitting hint time
and time again.</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><br><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal">Ah so. So you could check if the letters entered by position at least match the shown pattern in the hint, i.e. they aren't doing "asdfsfsdfsd", enter.<br><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><br><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br>></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I like the idea of the b_l_s__t hint, adding in a few more
letters if the user remains stuck, but never adding them all.<br><br>The Tuesday night pub trivia over here is played on a handset that is networked nationwide, so you are playing against everyone in the pub and everyone in the world at the same time.<br>The handsets also have a silly little game you can play standalone that works like that.<br>Word-with-blanks. You type in a letter and it either fills it in or adds a strike. 3 strikes, move on.<br></span><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 23, 2009 4:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Text Entry Hints</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Could do that after the user
enters the first n characters incorrectly? Or so many characters are wrong?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Hmm Thinking about your original moan about
the deviousness of students.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Won't they just learn to hit # until they
get a hint? </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Maybe evaluate on enter.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">So they have to make some full length stab
at it first.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Then randomly make the
b_ll_h__t tooltip and float it next to the text field – by blanking out a
percentage of the characters at random?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Or starting with b___ls___
and then adding in random characters as they continue to not improve their
match?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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Second option. Then it could be tied into a penalty stance if you wanted.<br>
3 additional characters, -3 pts. <br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Might be tricky for short
words.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Like all and awl.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 23, 2009 4:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Text Entry Hints</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Can
you somehow hang it on there as a tooltip?<br>
<br>
It'll turn it into a game. "Hey mate, take a look at this, any
ideas?"<br>
Then they get to sound out the phonetics until they get it, then they have to
type it in, thereby setting it in stone in their minds forever.<br>
My theory, which belongs to me, is mine.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Subject:
RE: [Xerte] Text Entry Hints<br>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:08:58 +0000<br>
From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>
To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I was updating the text in
the field with the hint.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">How would I do that this way?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I could wait foir the field
to get focus again and then hide the text…?</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-left: 108pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 23, 2009 4:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Text Entry Hints</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 108pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Wheel
of Fortune style.<br>
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1 hint:<br>
b__ll_h_t<br>
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<br>
> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:58:35 +0000<br>
> From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>
> To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
> Subject: [Xerte] Text Entry Hints<br>
> <br>
> I've got an interaction with a passage of text, and several words<br>
> blanked out to make a fill in the blank exercise.<br>
> <br>
> How would you best use a hint to keep the learner on track?<br>
> <br>
> Right now I am checking over the current answer, counting how many<br>
> correct characters there are, and then adding the next one.<br>
> <br>
> Trouble is you can just keep banging the 'hint' button and you get shown<br>
> the answer eventually, and that's what people willdo: they need to work<br>
> out the answer for themselves, but get some help...<br>
> <br>
> Any bright ideas? <br>
> <br>
> Can limit the number of hints per field?<br>
> Limit to the first n characters (maybe word.length / 2);<br>
> Allow only so may hints for the whole interaction?<br>
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