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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I doubt users would change the
settings. You can always link to or embed the content. Automatically including
a link to the rss_proxy on a server, for potential use by another, is not a
decision I’m very comfortable making on behalf of other institutions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>RonM<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] rss page<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Not
sure bending your ear is the right description an award winning ear at that!
;-) I did say that in most cases there is little value in exporting LO’s
creating with page templates and importing into a vle as a scorm object because
there isn’t any score tracking built-in to the page templates at the moment.
But that’s different to someone exporting and importing into a vle course for
other reasons or uploading to a web site outside of toolkits.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hmm
yes but:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-
user exports content; link to user’s server rssproxy is included;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-
user gives content to other user – given via toolkits problem doesn’t exist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-
other user uploads to a completely different system – user changes the path to
the proxy file in the wizard first<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-
other system relies on first system – not if path changed first<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-
first system dies or changes – shift happens we can’t cover every scenario (as
you’ve said many times) but there is a clear break at the moment with the rss
page when uploaded to a vle or web page<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Do
any of the other pages rely on the proxy file too?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Don’t
want to take up your time with this but if a full path to a proxy file would
work then I think having that as an option to add in the wizard at least
provides the opportunity for the page to work when uploaded to a vle or
website. However my quick tests last night didn’t work with a direct link to a
proxy file so I’m not sure if there is code elsewhere that needs changing too?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 September 2009 10:02<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] rss page<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>I
remember you bending my ear last week about how it wasn’t really a great idea
to export LOs and import them into a VLE, and that it was much better to link
to them directly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>The
problem with linking back to your server is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-
user exports content; link to user’s server rssproxy is included;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-
user gives content to other user<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-
other user uploads to a completely different system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-
other system relies on first system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>-
first system dies or changes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>RonM<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] rss page<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Pat I
think that’s missing the point a bit – If someone creates an LO which contains
an rss page and previews that with either XOT or locally the rss page will work
but if they then export and upload the LO to a vle the rss page won’t work
unless as you say the external server has a crossdomain file. The latter isn’t
really controllable so is there not a way that the code could be adapted to
make use of an rss_proxy.php file where the template has a text field to enter
the path of that file? E.g. another if statement that detects if a path has
been entered in the field and if so uses that path instead?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 14 September 2009 23:13<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] rss page<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>If the site producing the rss
feed has a crossdomain.xml you can get to it from flash</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If you export it - whats the guarantee you'll
have internet?</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon 14/09/2009 22:05<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] rss page</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I don't think so, as the flash
security means you cannot make that request directly from the Flash player. </span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>So something has to be in the middle.
</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>That could be a central service
somewhere...?</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Have you tried calling our <a
href="http://www.nottingham/toolkits/rss_proxy.php?rss='">http://www.nottingham/toolkits/rss_proxy.php?rss='</a>
+ pageIcon.templateData.rss[0].url?</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'd have to check that is something we can
sustain.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of RonM<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon 14/09/2009 21:17<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] rss page</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>Hi Pat/Julian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>This never occurred to me before
but am I right in thinking that if an LO created with the page templates
contains an RSS feed page and is then exported and uploaded to a vle or
webserver e.g. outside of a toolkits install then the RSS feed page won’t work?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>e.g. the rss.rlm has the
following:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>if
(templatePath.indexOf('modules/xerte') == -1){<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> feedURL =
pageIcon.templateData.rss[0].url;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>} else {<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> feedURL = _level0.site_url
+ 'rss_proxy.php?rss=' + pageIcon.templateData.rss[0].url;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>}<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>I know the need for rss_proxy.php
is due to the flash player security and for the rss page to work online it
needs to make use of rss_proxy.php but I’m just wondering if there’s a way of
getting this to work outside of toolkits. I tried adding a static path to
rss_proxy.php on the server where I uploaded a test and that didn’t work. The
same LO works fine when run locally but is there a way of getting the rss page
to work when viewed online but outside of toolkits?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>Ron <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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