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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Not sure bending your ear is the
right description an award winning ear at that! ;-) I did say that in most
cases there is little value in exporting LO’s creating with page
templates and importing into a vle as a scorm object because there isn’t
any score tracking built-in to the page templates at the moment. But that’s
different to someone exporting and importing into a vle course for other
reasons or uploading to a web site outside of toolkits.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hmm yes but:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>- user exports content; link to
user’s server rssproxy is included;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>- user gives content to other
user – given via toolkits problem doesn’t exist<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>- other user uploads to a
completely different system – user changes the path to the proxy file in
the wizard first<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>- other system relies on first
system – not if path changed first<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>- first system dies or changes –
shift happens we can’t cover every scenario (as you’ve said many
times) but there is a clear break at the moment with the rss page when uploaded
to a vle or web page<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Do any of the other pages rely
on the proxy file too?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Don’t want to take up your
time with this but if a full path to a proxy file would work then I think
having that as an option to add in the wizard at least provides the opportunity
for the page to work when uploaded to a vle or website. However my quick tests
last night didn’t work with a direct link to a proxy file so I’m
not sure if there is code elsewhere that needs changing too?</span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 September 2009 10:02<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] rss page<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I remember you bending my ear
last week about how it wasn’t really a great idea to export LOs and
import them into a VLE, and that it was much better to link to them directly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The problem with linking back to
your server is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>- user exports content; link to
user’s server rssproxy is included;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>- user gives content to other
user<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>- other user uploads to a
completely different system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>- other system relies on first
system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>- first system dies or changes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>RonM<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] rss page<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Pat I
think that’s missing the point a bit – If someone creates an LO
which contains an rss page and previews that with either XOT or locally the rss
page will work but if they then export and upload the LO to a vle the rss page
won’t work unless as you say the external server has a crossdomain file.
The latter isn’t really controllable so is there not a way that the code
could be adapted to make use of an rss_proxy.php file where the template has a
text field to enter the path of that file? E.g. another if statement that
detects if a path has been entered in the field and if so uses that path
instead?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 14 September 2009 23:13<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] rss page<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>If the site producing the rss
feed has a crossdomain.xml you can get to it from flash</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If you export it - whats the guarantee you'll
have internet?</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon 14/09/2009 22:05<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] rss page</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I don't think so, as the flash
security means you cannot make that request directly from the Flash player. </span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>So something has to be in the
middle. </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>That could be a central service
somewhere...?</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Have you tried calling our <a
href="http://www.nottingham/toolkits/rss_proxy.php?rss='">http://www.nottingham/toolkits/rss_proxy.php?rss='</a>
+ pageIcon.templateData.rss[0].url?</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'd have to check that is something we can
sustain.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of RonM<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon 14/09/2009 21:17<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] rss page</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Hi Pat/Julian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>This never occurred to me before but
am I right in thinking that if an LO created with the page templates contains
an RSS feed page and is then exported and uploaded to a vle or webserver e.g.
outside of a toolkits install then the RSS feed page won’t work?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>e.g. the rss.rlm has the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>if
(templatePath.indexOf('modules/xerte') == -1){<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> feedURL =
pageIcon.templateData.rss[0].url;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>} else {<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> feedURL = _level0.site_url
+ 'rss_proxy.php?rss=' + pageIcon.templateData.rss[0].url;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>}<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>I know the need for rss_proxy.php
is due to the flash player security and for the rss page to work online it
needs to make use of rss_proxy.php but I’m just wondering if
there’s a way of getting this to work outside of toolkits. I tried adding
a static path to rss_proxy.php on the server where I uploaded a test and that
didn’t work. The same LO works fine when run locally but is there a way
of getting the rss page to work when viewed online but outside of toolkits?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Ron <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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