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<br>I'm not sure. ;-)<br><br>I had looked at the beta and noticed a number of tag name changes and outright drops. Opened a basic .rlo just for fun and while it opened there are obvious gaps.<br><br>I guess I'm just asking if the current public runtime and editor is considered "mature". i.e. any further changes to them will be community based and nothing created using them will be portable to 3.0 and beyond.<br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">Subject: RE: [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version of Xerte andbackwardcompatiblitywith current versions<br>Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:33:32 +0100<br>From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br><br>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The runtime engine is inherently different. It is built on the
Flex framework, which brings an awful lot of out of the box power vis a vis
developing the whole thing from scratch in AS3.0. The interpreter is different,
so the scripting language changes a bit. Overall the application is very
similar. I have built what’s there so far using FlashDevelop, which I
like a lot, and everything is now much more object-oriented than before. This
makes it a lot easier for the community to contribute than it is currently, and
also much easier for us to manage contributions to the code base. As now, any
contributions would be very welcome – although the runtime engine is
pretty good right now – it is the editor that needs a lot of work.
Certain editor considerations might mean looking again at the .x3o file format
which is why things are very much ‘for information’ right now.</span></p>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Does that answer your question?</span></p>
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version of Xerte
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Julian, so do you see a bifurcation in the development tracks, or will dev on
< 3.0 become community based?<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Dave<br>
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RE: [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version of Xerte and backwardcompatiblitywith
current versions<br>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:00:11 +0100<br>
From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>
To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</span></p>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Almost certainly there
won’t be backwards compatibility with .rlo files – things are just
too different.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Definitely there will be
compatibility with toolkits data, which is just data after all.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Things are still very
embryonic. You can check out the samples in the .svn, and can install a
fledgling Xerte 3. There are still some quite fundamental decisions to make on
how best to take this forward, but having said that you can already see how
much more powerful it is.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Download it here: <a href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/X3AlphaSetup.exe">http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/X3AlphaSetup.exe</a>.
This is not for any production work – just a preview of some work in
progress.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version of Xerte and
backwardcompatiblitywith current versions</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: blue;">Hello,</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: blue;"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: blue;">Anyone with access to the SVN
has been able to see the beginnings of an actionscript 3 version of Xerte for
about a month or so. It’s also been listed on the wiki page for a while
as well.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: blue;"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: blue;">Toolkits is modularised and as
such could happily run many different editors and players as part of the same
system (we’ve been playing with a HTML play version over the last few
days), but because Xerte 3 is in it’s very early days for its
development, I can’t really give any specifics as to what it will and
won’t be able to do. </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: blue;"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: blue;">It’s worth noting that I
am not working on Xerte 3 directly, as I don’t know any flex, and the
answer above is mostly guess work as Julian’s not here.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: blue;">If there are features you would
like then please have a think about it and let us know, or maybe even start a
page on the wiki.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: blue;">Pat</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 108pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" lang="EN-US">
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Johnathan
Kemp<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 August 2009 14:25<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version of Xerte and backward
compatiblitywith current versions</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 108pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: blue;">Hello Xerte Team,</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 108pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 108pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: blue;">In my explorations through the
archives I came across something Julian posted on 22nd July 2008 regarding a
Xerte 2.0 type application that would use actionscript 3.0. </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 108pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: blue;">In this posting Julian writes</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';"></span></p>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 108pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: blue;">><i> It would lead to a Xerte
2.0 type application that would actually<br>
</i>><i> compile swfs and use AS3.0. It would use the flex framework rather
than<br>
</i>><i> it's own engine, and so the differences between that and the
current<br>
</i>><i> Xerte would be significant - it would be hard to recreate the
flowline<br>
</i>><i> metaphor for example. A lot of work to do though, so view it as
work in<br>
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 108pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: blue;">If I recall correctly Pat has
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<p class="EC_MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 108pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: blue;">I was wondering how backward
compatible this would be with the current versions of Xerte / Templates /
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