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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes, some icons are not there anymore, there used to be about 9?
Now there are 37.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version ofXerteandbackwardcompatiblitywith
current versions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Xerte 3.0 will not support
Xerte 2.5 .rlo files, no. Support for 2.5 will remain as it is, and if anything
were to change I would hope to signpost that way in advance. 2.5 is now very
mature, very few changes have happened inside the engine for the last 12
months.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version of Xerteandbackwardcompatiblitywith
current versions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br>
I'm not sure. ;-)<br>
<br>
I had looked at the beta and noticed a number of tag name changes and outright
drops. Opened a basic .rlo just for fun and while it opened there are obvious
gaps.<br>
<br>
I guess I'm just asking if the current public runtime and editor is considered
"mature". i.e. any further changes to them will be community based
and nothing created using them will be portable to 3.0 and beyond.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Subject:
RE: [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version of Xerte andbackwardcompatiblitywith current
versions<br>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:33:32 +0100<br>
From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>
To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The runtime engine is
inherently different. It is built on the Flex framework, which brings an awful
lot of out of the box power vis a vis developing the whole thing from scratch
in AS3.0. The interpreter is different, so the scripting language changes a
bit. Overall the application is very similar. I have built what’s there so far
using FlashDevelop, which I like a lot, and everything is now much more
object-oriented than before. This makes it a lot easier for the community to
contribute than it is currently, and also much easier for us to manage
contributions to the code base. As now, any contributions would be very welcome
– although the runtime engine is pretty good right now – it is the editor that
needs a lot of work. Certain editor considerations might mean looking again at
the .x3o file format which is why things are very much ‘for information’ right
now.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Does that answer your
question?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Burnett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version of Xerte
andbackwardcompatiblitywith current versions</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br>
Julian, so do you see a bifurcation in the development tracks, or will dev on
< 3.0 become community based?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Subject:
RE: [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version of Xerte and backwardcompatiblitywith
current versions<br>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:00:11 +0100<br>
From: Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk<br>
To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Almost certainly there won’t
be backwards compatibility with .rlo files – things are just too different.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Definitely there will be
compatibility with toolkits data, which is just data after all.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Things are still very
embryonic. You can check out the samples in the .svn, and can install a
fledgling Xerte 3. There are still some quite fundamental decisions to make on
how best to take this forward, but having said that you can already see how
much more powerful it is.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Download it here: <a
href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/X3AlphaSetup.exe">http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/X3AlphaSetup.exe</a>.
This is not for any production work – just a preview of some work in progress.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version of Xerte and
backwardcompatiblitywith current versions</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>Hello,</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>Anyone with access to the SVN
has been able to see the beginnings of an actionscript 3 version of Xerte for
about a month or so. It’s also been listed on the wiki page for a while as
well.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>Toolkits is modularised and as
such could happily run many different editors and players as part of the same
system (we’ve been playing with a HTML play version over the last few days),
but because Xerte 3 is in it’s very early days for its development, I can’t
really give any specifics as to what it will and won’t be able to do. </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>It’s worth noting that I am not
working on Xerte 3 directly, as I don’t know any flex, and the answer above is
mostly guess work as Julian’s not here.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>If there are features you would
like then please have a think about it and let us know, or maybe even start a
page on the wiki.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>Pat</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span
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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Johnathan
Kemp<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 August 2009 14:25<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Actionscript 3 version of Xerte and backward
compatiblitywith current versions</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Hello Xerte Team,</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>In my explorations through the
archives I came across something Julian posted on 22nd July 2008 regarding a
Xerte 2.0 type application that would use actionscript 3.0. </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>In this posting Julian writes</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>><i> It would lead to a Xerte
2.0 type application that would actually<br>
</i>><i> compile swfs and use AS3.0. It would use the flex framework rather
than<br>
</i>><i> it's own engine, and so the differences between that and the
current<br>
</i>><i> Xerte would be significant - it would be hard to recreate the
flowline<br>
</i>><i> metaphor for example. A lot of work to do though, so view it as
work in<br>
</i>><em><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> progress.</span></em></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>If I recall correctly Pat has
mentioned in recent postings working on an Actionscript 3.0 version of Xerte.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:180.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>I was wondering how backward
compatible this would be with the current versions of Xerte / Templates /
Toolkits, bearing in mind Julian's comments from 2008.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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