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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It’s a good question. Just trying to think through in my head
how it would work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As it stands you can save pages from .rlo projects as models and
upload them into the Xerte page type in toolkits. The idea is that you use
toolkits to do the bread and butter stuff, and supplement that with bespoke /
more complex / custom material built in Xerte and saved as page models. Most of
the time there will be far more bread and butter stuff than bespoke. If there
is more bespoke than bread and butter, toolkits probably isn’t the right
solution in the first place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Maybe there would be a way of uploading an .rlo and then making
a page model from each of it’s pages, and appending a new Xerte Page type?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Do you think this is worth doing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 27, 2009 10:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Importing projects to Xerte On-line Toolkits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I don’t think there is an easy
way, as they use a different approach, but it’s not really my area.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Watson, Owen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 July 2009 10:53<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Importing projects to Xerte On-line Toolkits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Pat,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you very much for your
help, this is what I needed to know and it’s great for creating new projects.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Unfortunately, all the
projects we have are in RLO format. Is there any way to convert from RLO format
into a template format which can be uploaded onto the Toolkts server?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>owen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 July 2009 10:29<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Importing projects to Xerte On-line Toolkits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>Hi Owen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>That’s not a piece Xerte code
made by a template, that’s just a normal piece of Xerte. Hence it not
importing. The web server only imports content that is based around a template.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>Go into Xerte, click templates
on the menu, then click “page templates”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>If you make it in there, it
should then give you the files you need.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I just tested it, and it
uploaded (threw a stupid error but it worked anyways).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><a
href="http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_1332" target=new>http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_1332</a><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>Pat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Watson, Owen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 July 2009 10:04<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Importing projects to Xerte On-line Toolkits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Pat,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I discovered why I got a
hugely long error message on occasion. Apparently if you have a folder inside
the zip with the project inside instead of having the project as the root of
the zip it fails with lots of problems trying to create the RLT file, displays
a long error (made up of HTML and various PHP errors) and half creates a blank
project.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With regard to the importing
of a project from Stand Alone Xerte to the Toolkits Server, I’m totally at a
loss now. I’ve tried amending files, replacing files, deleting files and adding
attributes and I’m now incredibly fed up with the whole thing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ve attached a very simple
project created in the stand-alone version, (it has a single page with a line
of text on it), can you please give me a step by step guide as to what exactly
I’m supposed to do to this to make it work on the Toolkits server?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Owen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 July 2009 19:51<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Importing projects to Xerte On-line Toolkits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>An external xerte template should import ok.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>A long error would almost certainly be a
PHP problem, which would be a server issue. All the import errors use a **** to
delimit the error message. None should go past a line in length.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The bare minimum could be achieved by
creating a new template online, doing nothing to it, then exporting it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thats what I will do here, so you should be
able to do it there as well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Pat</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi Pat,<br>
<br>
Thanks again for the reply. Can I automatically generate the required files for
the learning objects in standalone Xerte?<br>
<br>
I tried modifying a learning object I exported from the toolkits server,
however it didn't import for reasons I don't understand as the error was too
long to fit on the message box.<br>
<br>
Also, looking in the RLO from the toolkits server there is a lot of javascript
describing how the pages should be structured,<br>
however the RLO generated from the stand alone version doesn't have any of
this.<br>
<br>
When you get the chance could you send me a very basic (i.e. blank) project
with the bare minimum of files in it, which will successfully import to the
toolkits server, for me too look at?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Owen<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Patrick Lockley<br>
Sent: Sat 25/07/2009 00:47<br>
To: Xerte discussion list<br>
Subject: RE: [Xerte] Importing projects to Xerte On-line Toolkits<br>
<br>
A template should have an RLT, an XWD and a piece of XML, as a bare minimum.<br>
<br>
Again. not with the code, but as far as I recall the code loops through the zip
looking for an RLT.<br>
<br>
In the RLT it looks for the folder name and version number attributes to check
there is the same one on the system.<br>
<br>
If it finds them it looks through the RLT for the XML path.<br>
<br>
If it passes both of these it should import ok.<br>
<br>
You can add any attribute you like within xerte, including custom ones.<br>
<br>
Best bet is compare your RLO with the exported RLO to see what the server
expects.<br>
<br>
_____ <br>
<br>
From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Watson, Owen<br>
Sent: Fri 24/07/2009 23:19<br>
To: Xerte discussion list<br>
Subject: RE: [Xerte] Importing projects to Xerte On-line Toolkits<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi Pat,<br>
<br>
Sorry for being dense, but I still don't quite understand... When I save an RLT
or an RLO from within the standalone client, I only have a single file, (the
afore mentioned RLT or RLO). Am I supposed to be including other files with
this when I zip it and try and upload it?<br>
<br>
If I export a project as a zip from the toolkits server it has a shed load of
files... do I need all of these when I upload a project from the standalone
version?<br>
<br>
Do I need to add the version number attribute manually, or can I add it within
Xerte?<br>
<br>
Owen<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Patrick Lockley<br>
Sent: Fri 24/07/2009 17:45<br>
To: Xerte discussion list<br>
Subject: RE: [Xerte] Importing projects to Xerte On-line Toolkits<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
You need to add a version number attribute as well - I am guessing the template
that goes out with the installer has changed. Best bet is to take the RLT off
your toolkits server, and replace it with the one in the folder before you zip
it up.<br>
<br>
Pat<br>
<br>
_____<br>
<br>
From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Watson, Owen<br>
Sent: Fri 24/07/2009 15:42<br>
To: Xerte discussion list<br>
Subject: RE: [Xerte] Importing projects to Xerte On-line Toolkits<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi Pat,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your quick reply, however I still don't understand what exactly I'm
supposed to be doing to make it work.<br>
<br>
I have tried creating a new project leaving the default settings, saving it as
an RLT, zipping it and then uploading it and I still get an error about no
corresponding templates.<br>
<br>
In standalone Xerte there is no option to add 'folderName' to the learning
object properties. I tried adding this attribute to the RLT using XML Notepad,
(and manually), and setting the value to be 'Nottingham' which, as far as I can
tell, is the name of one of the two templates installed by default in Xerte
Online Toolkits.<br>
<br>
This is a bit of a show stopper ATM as we have quite a few learning objects
which have been created in the standalone version of Xerte using the default
template supplied which we can't import.<br>
<br>
Again, any help you can provide would be much appreciated, as this is proving
to be a major headache.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Owen<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [<a
href="mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk">mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk</a>]
On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley<br>
Sent: 24 July 2009 14:49<br>
To: Xerte discussion list<br>
Subject: RE: [Xerte] Importing projects to Xerte On-line Toolkits<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
Can't be certain as I am not near the code at the moment, but as long as you
rename the rlo to be an rlt, it should work.<br>
<br>
The only reason you get a no corresponding template error is if the folderName
attribute in the learning object node of the rlt is not equal to a template you
have installed on the system.<br>
<br>
Offline and online versions of Page templates, should be identical.<br>
<br>
The wizards and the editor are also the same.<br>
<br>
Pat<br>
<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Watson, Owen<br>
Sent: Fri 24/07/2009 13:28<br>
To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
Subject: [Xerte] Importing projects to Xerte On-line Toolkits<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
I'm working on Bolton's implementation of Xerte, (which should be going<br>
live soon), and have run into a problem importing projects created in<br>
Xerte v2.5.7 into Xerte Online Toolkits v1.0.2.<br>
<br>
Initially I thought you did this from Workspace -> Properties -> Import,<br>
however uploading *any* zip file, be it a project or a template results<br>
in the error "You can only import Zip files."<br>
<br>
After discovering that this only seems to be a problem in Firefox 3.5.1,<br>
I then discovered this method is seemingly only for importing templates.<br>
<br>
However, after creating a basic project with a fresh download of Xerte<br>
2.5.7 and saving a 'new' project as a template, I was then presented<br>
with a message saying that no corresponding templates could be found.<br>
<br>
So my questions are...<br>
1) How do you import projects into Xerte Online Toolkits which were<br>
created in the standalone version of Xerte?<br>
2) What templates (if any?) are common between the two 'versions' of<br>
Xerte?<br>
<br>
Any help would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Owen Watson<br>
<br>
<br>
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