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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have not noticed any spam that I could definitely attribute to
this list either….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Swanson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 July 2009 21:02<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Anti Spam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you view the html source in the archives, you won’t
find your email address. What shows as your.name at yourDomain is the text part
of a mailto: link. The actual email address in the mailto: code just points
back to the archives. Spambots look at the html source for mailto: or
your.name@yourDomain to get email addresses. There is also a meta tag on those
pages: <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
So I don’t think this is really the cause of an increase in
Jeremy’s spam. I haven’t noticed an increase in my spam.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We have a spam filter, but my spam report doesn’t indicate
that I receive very much. Maybe Jeremy’s spam filter is not functioning,
or he doesn’t have one at all?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Anti Spam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>It'll break our own search engine.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
didn't think your email ever showed up in the archives anyway?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on
behalf of Patrick Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue 21/07/2009 17:18<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Anti Spam</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I’ll ask the sysadmin people.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy
Hopkins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 July 2009 17:01<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Anti Spam</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>If you add a robots.txt file to
your lists sub domain here:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><a
href="http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/robots.txt">http://lists.nottingham.ac.uk/robots.txt</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>and add the following to it:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>User-agent: * Disallow: /<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>That will keep the search engines
out, but that will mean the content is not searchable via those engines.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>As I said, I do not wish to
moan… but as things are it’s only a matter of time before the
Viagra salesmen start pushing their wares to all your subscribers </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>L</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Jeremy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 July 2009 16:55<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Anti Spam</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>Maybe it’s the google
search widget for the list?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Hopkins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 July 2009 16:52<br>
<b>To:</b> xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] Anti Spam</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I have started receiving spam since joining
the Xerte mailing list, that may be coincidence, or it is possible they got my
address from another source, but, regardless of that I I see my mail address is
indexed in google, the only precaution being to replace @ with
“at”.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Personally I do not think that is enough, it
is such a common trick any self respecting spammer would harvest those and take
a punt on them being a mail address.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Is it possible to remove the domain from the
addresses, add some more text to the address, or drop the list in favour of a
forum?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sorry to be a whinge.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jeremy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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