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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If people want to add a database abstraction layer and support
for numerous authentication systems, that is great. We can help with
information and give you some pointers. But we do need to be clear about where
this is going - up until now, you, the community have asked, and we, the Xerte
Project team have delivered. Usually very quickly, and mostly we&#8217;ve said &#8216;thanks
for the feedback&#8217; along the way. That has got us into a really good
position. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is not possible for us, paid for by the Univesity of Nottingham,
to spend our time building tools that only you, the University of Somewhere Else
needs. That sounds to me entirely reasonable. If you need Xerte or Toolkits to
do something specific for your institution or organisation, then there is an
expectation that you&#8217;ll come to the party with some technical time and
skill to contribute. Open-source is a two way street after all. I&#8217;ll happily
add any items you want to a road map - we will need people to put their hands
up to take on some of the development work though.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>J<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] The future of Xerte<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I think (ideally) this needs a
little reciprocation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I (for my side of things with
PHP/MySQL) am stuck between adding new things that need say database changes,
and trying to keep the code stable for the people with installs. Then there is
what we develop.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>For example<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>At Nottingham we have no need
for non-LDAP authentication, so we&#8217;ve not written it. But I could think
of a lot of places which would like this. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>We are happy with MySQL, but a
lot of places use SQL server so there is a case for an abstraction layer for
the database maybe?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicola Wilkinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 May 2009 13:55<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] The future of Xerte<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>I think it would be nice to see a roadmap of developments intended
for the next 6-12 months. That would give people an idea of what you as the
developers at Nottingham are expecting to achieve. Some other open source
project use a themes and priorities style document to convey this information
to the community surrounding their projects.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>I hope it is something you consider putting together as I think it
will help potential users 'sell' the Xerte tool to institutions and senior
managers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>Nic</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 May 2009 13:45<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] The future of Xerte</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The University of Nottingham
have sunk a lot of money into this so far and it is a key part of our elearning
strategy. The Xpert Project is to develop a repository that will sit alongside
Xerte Online Toolkits &#8211; it is that project that will complete in
September. Beyond that we anticipate at least another year of refinements, and
will be doing more to promote the tools to the outside world, and to develop
the communiuty of users to the point where the software would be sustainable,
even if the UoN went for a ball of chalk. Right now the software is gaining the
UoN much i) kudos and ii) funding, so it&#8217;s unlikely to go anywhere in the
near future.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The long term future of the
software will lie with the open-source community around it. I imagine key
developers from the Xerte project team would remain members of that community
and continue to play an active role. There are already a number of key
stakeholders from other institutions and organisations. It is hoped that people
like yourself, that have a stake in &nbsp;the project&#8217;s sutainability,
that use and like using the software, will play a part in helping to sustain it
into the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>J<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Johnathan
Kemp<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] The future of Xerte<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello Xerte Team,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I am in the process of trying to convince the
company I work for to use Xerte On-line Toolkits as their preferred solution
for developing e-learning modules for posting on a Moodle site.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I have been looking at the Xerte site for details
of the project, particularly with respect to the future plans for Xerte - its
ongoing development and maintenance. I note that Xerte is a product of the
Xpert project which has on its page a headline &quot;Xpert Project, April 1st -
September 30th 2009&quot;. </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Are there any details available regarding the
future plans for Xerte? Any roadmap for its future development? Any indications
of what level of resource, if any, will be available to support the longer
term&nbsp;viability of Xerte?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Xerte is a very interesting product but I
will need to be able to demonstrate to my colleagues that they do not have to
worry about Xerte's viability in the longer term.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Kind regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Johnathan</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Johnathan
Kemp<br>
IT Dev. Manager<br>
Connexions Staffordshire<br>
</span><a href="http://www.cxstaffs.co.uk/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.cxstaffs.co.uk</span></a><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>01785 355714</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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