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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks. It’s not really a dilemna. We simply cannot undertake
work, for free, for a rival institution. What we can do is facilitate the
community aspects of things so that others can collaborate on development in an
organised and systematic way, and help manage things like the code repository,
the wiki, this mailing list, the project web sites and so on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The main things we are looking at right now are any support
required for the Xpert Project, which in fact we got mostly done in version 1.0
with the addition of the Dublin Core metadata to the RSS feeds coming out of
toolkits, and the options for syndication. What we will do towards the end of
the work on expert is embed the respository search back into toolkits so that
syndicated content can be serched for from within the site as well as from the
xpert hub.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There are a load of training materials in development by techDis
which will appear over the next six months. I’d like to see the Wiki
develop a good deal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t have many plans for Xerte itself right now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We have some partner institutions who will be feeding in some
feedback onver the next six months as well, and we’ll respond to that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>J<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicola
Wilkinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] The future of Xerte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>I can see your dilemma.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>Having been there myself, I suggest that you stick with the
immediate needs of the UoN and the key stakeholder for the project. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>By roadmap / themes and priorities I mean that you put what you
intend to do first. These in essence become your top priorities, the other
elements such as the non-LDAP become secondary and are pushed out to the
community to develop - hopefully with your support and guidance.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>As for database abstraction - put it as a 'we will look at if we
have time' - its not as easy as you think, each database has its own SQL
nuances that need to then be catered for. Stick with what you have and know,
but assist some one who wants to go down a different path/database.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>Just out of curiosity can you list the next 5-10 developments that
you want to make? Also as you have a database for the online tool kits, you
need to think how you will support any mods made to it, for those already with
an install. I personally went down the line of having scripts - one that is the
full database to be used during the install and another that is an update to
bring the database in line.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>I hope this helps and gives you some more information as to a
direction to take. Its so easy to become bogged down into delivering everything
for everyone.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>Nic</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 May 2009 14:15<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] The future of Xerte</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I think (ideally) this needs a
little reciprocation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I (for my side of things with
PHP/MySQL) am stuck between adding new things that need say database changes,
and trying to keep the code stable for the people with installs. Then there is
what we develop.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>For example<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>At Nottingham we have no need
for non-LDAP authentication, so we’ve not written it. But I could think
of a lot of places which would like this. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>We are happy with MySQL, but a
lot of places use SQL server so there is a case for an abstraction layer for
the database maybe?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicola Wilkinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 May 2009 13:55<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] The future of Xerte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>I think it would be nice to see a roadmap of developments intended
for the next 6-12 months. That would give people an idea of what you as the
developers at Nottingham are expecting to achieve. Some other open source
project use a themes and priorities style document to convey this information to
the community surrounding their projects.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>I hope it is something you consider putting together as I think it
will help potential users 'sell' the Xerte tool to institutions and senior
managers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:blue'>Nic</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 May 2009 13:45<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] The future of Xerte</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The University of Nottingham
have sunk a lot of money into this so far and it is a key part of our elearning
strategy. The Xpert Project is to develop a repository that will sit alongside
Xerte Online Toolkits – it is that project that will complete in
September. Beyond that we anticipate at least another year of refinements, and
will be doing more to promote the tools to the outside world, and to develop
the communiuty of users to the point where the software would be sustainable,
even if the UoN went for a ball of chalk. Right now the software is gaining the
UoN much i) kudos and ii) funding, so it’s unlikely to go anywhere in the
near future.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The long term future of the
software will lie with the open-source community around it. I imagine key
developers from the Xerte project team would remain members of that community
and continue to play an active role. There are already a number of key
stakeholders from other institutions and organisations. It is hoped that people
like yourself, that have a stake in the project’s sutainability,
that use and like using the software, will play a part in helping to sustain it
into the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>J<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Johnathan
Kemp<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Xerte] The future of Xerte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello Xerte Team,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I am in the process of trying to convince the
company I work for to use Xerte On-line Toolkits as their preferred solution
for developing e-learning modules for posting on a Moodle site.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I have been looking at the Xerte site for
details of the project, particularly with respect to the future plans for Xerte
- its ongoing development and maintenance. I note that Xerte is a product of
the Xpert project which has on its page a headline "Xpert Project, April
1st - September 30th 2009". </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Are there any details available regarding the
future plans for Xerte? Any roadmap for its future development? Any indications
of what level of resource, if any, will be available to support the longer
term viability of Xerte?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Xerte is a very interesting product but I
will need to be able to demonstrate to my colleagues that they do not have to
worry about Xerte's viability in the longer term.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Kind regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Johnathan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Johnathan
Kemp<br>
IT Dev. Manager<br>
Connexions Staffordshire<br>
</span><a href="http://www.cxstaffs.co.uk/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.cxstaffs.co.uk</span></a><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>01785 355714</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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