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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t expect the mailing list to dissapear. I see the wiki as
being the plae for docs / examples / info / etc, whilst this list does what it
always has done,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alistair
McNaught<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Replying to these out of
sequence as I catch up fro a couple of days on the road.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I like the idea of the
parallel routes – the discussion list v wiki. I think I had probably been
worrying that the wiki would replace all as the centre of the Xerte universe
but if it is the distillation of the best bits of the lists it would work for
all levels of contributor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree that editing an
existing entry is easy but creating brand new ones and doing slightly more
sophisticated stuff like inserting images is more daunting to Wiki newbies. In
some respects though it might act as a bit of a quality control filter. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark
Tomlinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 29 April 2009 09:48<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Trusted contributors is
possible to implement if the general consensus is that is what is
required. If someone ‘edits / defaces’ the content there, it is not lost
as each page change is archived. It is merely an annoyance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think this discussion list
covers your needs under your point 2 and I don’t see a Wiki replacing this.
I see the Wiki as supplementary and holding such things as documentation
and ‘best practice examples’ using certain techniques etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When you edit a page in the
wiki, there are buttons at the top of the editor that insert the correct syntax
for you, so you don’t have to remember the ‘obscure code convention’<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alistair
McNaught<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 29 April 2009 09:30<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Useful info Mark – many
thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I can look into this but not
able to for a couple of days..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That still leaves the issues
about audience and trusted contributors to be considered..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark
Tomlinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 29 April 2009 09:05<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Apparently Mediawiki is
: “</span><span lang=EN>almost accessible for blind users”</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://blind.wikia.com/wiki/Mediawiki_and_Accessibility">http://blind.wikia.com/wiki/Mediawiki_and_Accessibility</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The main issue I believe
centres around the use of Captcha. The one I integrated does not use the
visual verification method, but asks the user to solve a simple maths
problem. I would assume that a screen reader could read this, but I have
not tested it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alistair
McNaught<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 21:09<br>
<b>To:</b> Julian Tenney; ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk; Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just catching up with this
thread. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree that a collaborative
area for creating support materials is a great idea but I think we ought to
exercise some caution before making any single place the centre of the universe
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My main concerns are<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Vandalism
/spamming etc. We love Xerte but if I was a commercial developer making a tidy
income from selling overpriced underfeatured software I might not love the
threat Xerte provided to my income. I suggest that some sort of ‘trusted
status’ should be applied for access to the main support materials.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Horses
for courses – MediaWiki is fine and dandy for coders but if we wanted to set up
an area where teaching practitioners could share ideas, applications, examples,
simple questions etc we’d need a much simpler system. I’m an experienced
Tiddlywiki user but looking at the help pages on formatting and conventions
made me think… I can’t be bothered… I haven’t got time to remember some obscure
code convention for placing an image on the page or italicising text.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Accessibility
– it would be embarrassing if the much vaunted (by us at any rate)
accessibility features of Xerte were documented on an inaccessible wiki page.
I’ve not yet had a chance to get a screenreader user to test the page but I
certainly wouldn’t want to push this out before having done so. There are 14
tests for assessing the accessibility of web2 services (see <a
href="http://www.web2access.org.uk">www.web2access.org.uk</a>) and I’d want to
be sure we could meet most of them before putting my name to a Xerte centre of
the universe.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Certainly the wiki could be
invaluable at putting together the <b>specifications </b>for training and
support materials – and it may well be appropriate for <b>hosting</b> the
materials themselves but I think there needs to be rather more debate on the
matter and this might be the sort of thing that is thrashed out in relation to
the XPERT project meeting in May.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alistair<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Julian
Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney@nottingham.ac.uk] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 12:22<br>
<b>To:</b> ronm@mitchellmedia.co.uk; Alistair McNaught<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think we should concentrate
on making wiki.xerte.net the centre of the known universe. We need all the
documentation – from us, from the xpert project, from other contributers to
live in one place where it can easily be updated and maintained. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>RonM<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Apologies if this comes
through twice but I sent this at 10.40 this morning and it hasn’t appeared on
the list yet. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
color:#1F497D'>L</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Julian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Apologies for not responding
sooner – was delivering Toolkits training all day yesterday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When we were discussing the
use of a wiki off-list recently I was thinking that would be for developing the
spec for the support material rather than the actual support material. But as
has been suggested subsequently an installation of MediaWiki might do both <a
href="http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki">http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki</a>
as an example a lot of the moodle documentation is provided via MediaWiki <a
href="http://docs.moodle.org/en/Main_Page">http://docs.moodle.org/en/Main_Page</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 10:49<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I did quite a bit on <a
href="http://www.installationwiki.org">www.installationwiki.org</a> re toolkits
guidance, and then some spammer wrecked it and all my work got deleted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark
Tomlinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 10:49<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ll see what I can do….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 10:38<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I made an account as well, but
my inner pedant says Captcha?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:108.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark
Tomlinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2009 09:44<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jules<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think people can simply
create their own accounts??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Anyone an expert on media
wiki on the list??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Julian Tenney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 April 2009 21:25<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div id=idOWAReplyText18529>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I think there needs to be
documentation for people developing the software, and documentation for people
using the software. It could be in the same place, or in different places as
the two groups will have quite different requirements. Googlecode happened to
have a convenient wiki which is what Pat has started to use today. Sourceforge
have also just approved my project request, so now is a good time for us to
decide google code or sourceforge once and for all. I might set up a project on
soirceforge anyway adn then we can vote or something. You can see the
google code pages already. I like the simplicity a lot - it fits well with our
FWS design principles for the software itself.</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Mark - how would we add users to the wiki you
set up? That (or something similar) should probably host the bulk of the user
docs, and be the one place for info on using Xerte in its various forms. I
would love it if someone were to step forward and take on managing that space.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We have several people primed to start
creating documentation and I'm keen it doesn't become fragmented. </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Alistair and Ron: would a wiki meet your needs?
wiki.xerte.net in particular. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>J</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk
on behalf of Patrick Lockley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon 27/04/2009 19:10<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte discussion list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>10 repositories.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1 for those that speak binary, 1 for those
that don't - or grom my take so far on the installs of XOT, we have the
sysadmin types who would want the scope to do whatever they wanted, and the
dabblers who want something a little more light.</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:144.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Dave Burnett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon 27/04/2009 17:22<br>
<b>To:</b> Xerte list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Xerte] Wiki</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:144.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br>
Totally your call, but I'm not sure about the facility of splitting
locations...<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki<br>
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:09:40 +0100<br>
> From: Patrick.Lockley@nottingham.ac.uk<br>
> To: xerte@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
> <br>
> Can do both - I see the google one as the trouble shooter<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
> [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark<br>
> Tomlinson<br>
> Sent: 27 April 2009 17:06<br>
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'<br>
> Subject: RE: [Xerte] Wiki<br>
> <br>
> I spoke to Julian about this a while back and I did set one up then on:<br>
> <br>
> http://wiki.xerte.net<br>
> <br>
> I never got round to publicising it though :-(<br>
> <br>
> Mark<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk<br>
> [mailto:xerte-bounces@lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick<br>
> Lockley<br>
> Sent: 27 April 2009 17:01<br>
> To: Xerte discussion list<br>
> Subject: [Xerte] Wiki<br>
> <br>
> http://code.google.com/p/xerte/w/list<br>
> <br>
> Your wish is our command, if your wishes are based primarily on wikis<br>
> that is :)<br>
> <br>
> Patrick Lockley<br>
> IS Learning Team<br>
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